The Institute for Creation Research Explains Time

Here’s another lesson in creation science from the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) — the fountainhead of young-earth creationist wisdom. It’s titled Time and Creation, written by Brian Thomas. He’s described at the end of his articles as “Science Writer at the Institute for Creation Research.” This is ICR’s biographical information on him. Here are some excerpts from his essay on time, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections [that look like this]:

Questions about time often arise in discussions of Genesis and Earth’s age. Could billions of years have elapsed before the “in the beginning” of Genesis 1? When did time start? Science and Scripture suggest some answers. As one of the seven fundamental quantities of physics, time is essential to our existence. It permits possibilities to become real and allows causes to produce effects. Over time, we observe matter change state or form. People grow, learn, and get to know one another and God. Because of time, we humans get the privilege of experiencing the present, remembering the past, and hoping for the future.

Nice babble, but it says nothing. We regard time is the sequence of events. It’s duration is arbitrarily measured by a “clock,” a sequence (like the motion of the Earth) which is used as a standard of reference. Let’s find out where Brian is going. He says:

Time and change go hand in hand. But God does not change. He already knows the future, including theoretical futures. If He changed who He is, He would cease to be perfect and thus cease to be God. He cannot learn anything new because He already knows everything.

Time could not exist without God, yet He does not need time. Humans require time to exist. My potential to be a different me becomes the actual me only through time. Over time, we change what we have, such as gaining knowledge or strength. And God can change what we are, like from a sinner to a saint.

All clear? Good. After that, Brian tells us:

Genesis 1:1 says, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” Clearly, no created entities existed before that moment. [Yes, clearly.] And without material or immaterial entities, how could anyone notice the passage of time? So, it looks like “the beginning” marked the first moment of time. One could make a similar argument about space. Without space for material like clocks to inhabit, then no clocks could exist to mark the passage of time. And God did not create space (“the heavens”) until Genesis 1:1.

Okay, we’ve got that under control. Brian continues:

One of God’s first acts of creation was to invent a giant device to mark time — a spinning earth [Huh?] near a light source [created four days later] that delineated evening and morning. Scripture doesn’t record any things or events prior to the beginning, and time is defined by changes in the state of things. Apparently, prior to the creation week, there was only God, perfect in His timeless changelessness — just as He still is and will forever remain. Thus, the Bible suggests there was no time before the beginning of creation.

Can’t argue with that! Now we’ll skip to the end:

So, can we avoid recent creation by fiddling with the meaning of time in Genesis 1? Bottom line, we would have a hard time trying to go against the scriptural trend that time began at the moment God first spoke light into being on Day 1 of the creation week.

Now you know all you need to know — and all you ever can know — about time. You must admit, dear reader, the time spend reading Brian’s article was well spent!

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10 responses to “The Institute for Creation Research Explains Time

  1. God doesn’t change? Nonsense. After the (admittedly imaginary Flood) God is alleged to have said he wouldn’t do it again. Sin came right back of course. God has decided to ignore it. Sounds like a change to me.

  2. Many Hebrew scholars suggest a different translation of the opening words of Genesis, something like:
    In the beginning of god’s creation …
    When God began to create …

    And the Bible tells us that there was water and a wind already there …

  3. Charles Deetz ;)

    Don’t these guys feel silly every time they write this stuff? The more they try to cover all the unknowns and inconsistencies, the sillier it sounds.

  4. Eddie Janssen

    Time and change go hand in hand. But God does not change. He already knows the future, including theoretical futures. If He changed who He is, He would cease to be perfect and thus cease to be God. He cannot learn anything new because He already knows everything.”

    God must be bored stiff.

  5. “creation science”
    Really, dear SC, this combination of words hurts my eyes worse than the expression “dry water”. If creacrap science is too vulgar for your sensitivities, at least could you use the expression “creation pseudoscience”? Please?

    “He already knows the future”
    Of course Brian sucks as badly at theology as at science. Even athiest materialist darwinist commienazi me is aware of the discussion of the 16th Century: a god already knowing the future and being omnipotents results in humans not having free will. That’s why Luther advocated predestination.

    “And God can change what we are, like from a sinner to a saint.”
    Great. Then I don’t have to make any effort.

  6. Eddie Janssen says: “God must be bored stiff.”

    Imagine watching the same movie, over and over, forever.

  7. If God knew the future, there would have been no need for drastic measures after the original sin, or for the massacre of all of the world’s population except 8. Do Bible believers ever stop to ponder the implications of being omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent? Ponder it deeply and then check it against the stories in the Bible?

  8. David Evans

    Could God have foreseen the results of allowing the serpent into the garden of Eden, and decided not to do it? Or would that be impossible since he must have already foreseen that he would do it? These are deep questions.

  9. See the difference between Supralapsarianism and Infralapsarianism. Was the Fall of Man predetermined? Wikipedia has an introduction to the controversy in “The logical order of God’s decrees”.

  10. “He already knows the future, including theoretical futures.”
    This is self-contradictory. If a god knows the future, then there are no theoretical futures. If he’s saying that god knows every possible future that might happen, then he’s saying that god DOESN’T know the future.
    If I hold a six-sided die in my hand and proclaim that rolling it will result in a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6, few people would be impressed with my knowledge of the future.