Creationist Wisdom #867: Evolution Demolished

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Sedona Eye, which is some kind of newspaper in Sedona, Arizona. The title is Evolution is Not Scientific Fact, and they have a comments section.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. His first name is Dale. Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary, some bold font for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]. Here we go!

Do you honestly believe the Power and Design of all Creation came about by Happenstance, with no intelligent guidance? If you do, please do not call it Science. There are holes in the Theory of Evolution wide enough to float aircraft carrier battle groups through.

You’ve probably noticed that Dale likes to use capital letters — a lot! Then he says:

I was taught and believed in evolution until my study proved, beyond doubt to me, that Evolution does not and can not work.

Exciting, huh? Dale tells us:

To start with, how could and would Evolution change from the ultra-efficient cell division form of reproduction to having need for a male and a female of a specie? [sic]

Ah yes, the mystery of sex. By the way, the word species is both singular and plural. The word specie refers to coins. Dale continues:

How could the Eyes have evolved when the chemical make-up of the Eye is of chemicals that will not mix in natural surroundings? How could Honeybees have evolved when they cannot reproduce without Royal Jelly, and Honeybees are the ones that make Royal Jelly?

Those are great questions! Let’s read on:

Charles Darwin’s claims were bogus: The Tortoise were still Tortoise; the Iguana were still Iguana. Where are the new species if the animals and humans evolved? Was there some catastrophic event that made Evolution stop?

Yeah — where’s all the new stuff? Another excerpt:

I was raised believing in Science and I found Evolution was not true; I still didn’t believe in God, until I was involved in miracles [including broken bones repaired completely, in less than an hour, with first x-ray of head bones shattered and the second x-ray showing no sign of there ever having been a broken bone].

A miracle indeed! Also, Dale likes to use brackets instead of parentheses. Here’s more:

After that I started studying.

We can see the results! And now we come to the end:

Don’t even try to throw me that Evolution is Science because Evolution is all negative Emotion.

Wow — negative emotion. Great letter, Dale!

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12 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #867: Evolution Demolished

  1. Evolution is Not Scientific Fact, //// What is not fact:
    5. Universal common descent: the idea that all organisms have descended from a single common ancestor.
    6. Blind watchmaker thesis: the idea that all organisms have descended from common ancestors through unguided, unintelligent, purposeless, material processes such as natural
    selection acting on random variations or mutations; the idea that the Darwinian mechanism of natural selection acting on random variation, and other similarly naturalistic mechanisms, completely suffice to explain the origin of novel biological forms and the appearance of design in complex organisms.

    What is fact :
    1. Change over time; history of nature; any sequence of events in nature
    2. Changes in the frequencies of alleles in the gene pool of a population
    3. Limited common descent: the idea that particular groups of organisms have descended from
    a common ancestor.
    4. The mechanisms responsible for the change required to produce limited descent with modification; chiefly pre-programmed selection acting on random variations or mutations
    5. Natural selection acting up to two random mutations as shown in malaria ( See Behe’s Edge of evolution )

  2. I thought this fool had been booted from here. He dislikes dialog and posts walls of text.

  3. Oh look! The Grasso clown is back in the ring. Let’s point and laugh – at him not with him.

  4. After all the criticism creacrappers have received lately on this nice blog it’s time again to give one some credit. Dale is right:

    “Evolution is Not Scientific Fact”
    It’s not even an unscientific fact. It’s an abstraction used to describe correctly a wide variation of facts, like dug up fossils, mutations and observed speciation.

    “By the way, the word species is both singular and plural. The word specie refers to coins.”
    Thanks, I learned something today. For the Dutch equivalent there is such a distinction. At the other hand the Dutch word specie means mortar (as used in masonry).

  5. @Otrange, no doubt by accident, gets a few things right as well:

    “What is not fact …”
    Yup! Universal common descent is not a fact. Even Eartly common descent isn’t (scientists would be enormously surprised if they learned that all life in our Universe has a common ancestor). It’s also a conclusion – one of the category extrapolation. This extrapolation allows to operationalize, so that we can formulate testable hypotheses. Your beloved Grand Old Designer however (blessed be MOFO) does not do that at all. MOFO is nothing but a predetermined conclusion, making its worshippers like you wriggle like eels in a bucket of mucus to force all the facts in your theology.
    The Blind Watchmaker is not a fact either. You already write it yourself: it’s an idea. Better still is to name it a metaphor.

    How unfortunate that you subsequently demonstrate you don’t understand what a fact is.
    1. Is a fact (rather a large set of facts, but soit). It’s neatly explained by Evolution Theory as far as life is concerned).
    2. See 1.
    3. Is a fact as long you restrict it to observed speciation – something that is neatly explained again by Evolution Theory. The problem you carefully neglect is what you mean with “limited”, how you determine the limits and how you back them up with …. facts, ie observations.
    4. A mechanism by definition is not a fact but a description of a variety of facts.
    5. See 4 – natural selection is such a mechanism.

    Oh well, I guess a score of 50% is a huge achievement for a creacrapper like you.

    @Adrian has some sensible advise: “Let’s point and laugh – at him not with him.”
    That’s exactly what I do.

  6. Single-handed, with no intelligent guidance whatsoever, Dale has brought evolution crashing to the ground! It’s a paradigm-shifting day, indeed.
    No more of that lily-livered replication and variation stuff. From now on, DNA will just stick to getting it right, every single time. No mutations allowed. Because Dale said: No!
    So every new-born tortoise and iguana will be an exact clone? Sure, why not? But of which parent, mummy or daddy?
    My rejoinder to Dale would be: If species haven’t, or can’t have evolved, why then don’t we find fossils of modern, or extant species alongside extinct ones in the same geological strata?
    As for his miracle stories about broken bones: is there anything less persuasive than a theist’s personal anecdote?

  7. As far as malaria resistance to chloroquine needing two mutations, there are well documented populations of malaria that have acquired one (or the other) of the needed mutations (Gasp! A functional intermediate!) through genetic drift, so only one more mutation is needed for resistance. So Behe’s malaria example (and the idea nonfunctional intermediates) has been disproven by empirical evidence.
    That anyone is still not aware of this counter evidence, which has been know for over a decade, suggests the lack knowledge is willful.

  8. On my own blog, I ration creationists to two comments per OP, uness (this did happen once!) I decide they have opened up an interesting line of discussion, and at my discretion edit into overlengthy comments the html code for “click to read more”, which works with wordpress and is Read more

  9. I have some bad news for Dale but it would appear that not all of his head bones have healed properly. Perhaps another X-ray?

    What the heck is a head bone anyway?

  10. Richard Staller asks: “What the heck is a head bone anyway?”

    You never heard the song Dem Bones? I think one of the lines is: The head bone connected to the tushie bone …

  11. The head bone connected to the tushie bone …

    I feared that the most.

  12. Eric Lipps

    I was raised believing in Science and I found Evolution was not true; I still didn’t believe in God, until I was involved in miracles [including broken bones repaired completely, in less than an hour, with first x-ray of head bones shattered and the second x-ray showing no sign of there ever having been a broken bone].

    Even if these claims were true, what does that have to do with evolution? And surely such miracles would have made their way into medical journals (unless, of course, the doctors involved were all members of the great secularist Darwinist plot against God).

    Don’t even try to throw me that Evolution is Science because Evolution is all negative Emotion.

    ??? Honestly, even Ken Ham doesn’t venture that far into babble land.