Creationist Wisdom #890: Not Even a Theory

We learned about today’s letter-to-the-editor thanks to a tip from Gwyllm Griffiths. It appears in the News & Record of Greensboro, North Carolina, and they have a comments feature. The letter is titled No one has proven life can come from nonlife.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. His first name is Gary. Excerpts from his letter will be enhanced with our Curmudgeonly commentary, some bold font for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]. Here we go!

The irony is palpable. Many people are going bananas [Oook, Oook!] over the hopes that Mars possibly might have a lake. This has given rise to the idea that there may have been some bacteria that has evolved, i.e., life. Their logic is simply, because the Earth has water and life, Mars must also.

We wrote about that a couple of weeks ago — see A Lake of Water Found on Mars. We don’t recall going bananas over it, but we did say that it would be fun to watch for creationists’ reactions. Now the fun begins. Gary says:

The irony is that one could take all of the Earth’s oceans, lakes and rivers, and no life would evolve. [Really?] Since the 1880s science has proven that life cannot come from nonlife.

Jeepers! What happened in the 1880s? Louis Pasteur’s work — which we discuss in Common Creationist Claims Confuted, was done in 1859, and he didn’t accomplish what Gary is claiming. We must be missing something. Anyway, Gary then tells us:

There is no such thing as spontaneous generation. After thousands of experiments in perfect laboratory conditions, all attempts of producing life from chemicals have failed, even bacterial life.

Ah yes, that which hasn’t yet been done will never be done. It’s a creationist law of nature, which explains why science has never accomplished anything — and never will! Gary continues:

As Ph.D. geologist Roger Gallop [Who?] has shown in his book “Evolution, the Greatest Deceit in Modern History,” that evolution is not even a theory or hypothesis. For they must be based on observation — of which there is none. [Gasp!] He proclaims evolution is merely an “assumption.”

We found that book at Amazon (Gary got a word in the title wrong): Evolution – The Greatest Deception in Modern History. Somehow, we never heard of Gallop or his book before.

Anyway, here’s the end of Gary’s letter:

We simply should take God at His word: “In six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them” (Exodus 20:11).

There you are, dear reader. Gary has given us much to think about. His letter is a life-changer!

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16 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #890: Not Even a Theory

  1. It’s not just the bananas that are in trouble.

    Roger Gallop’s sterling work obviously made a deep impression on Gary, so much so that he felt humbly bound to compliment the author by getting the title of his book wrong.

    Still, to give him some credit, Gary’s clearly had a stab at reading all of two books, which is one more than most creationists.

    As far as I can tell, Roger Gallop is another of those double agents, like Andrew Snelling, who pose as reputable geologists by day, but really exist to live out the dream as creationist klutzes.

  2. Michael Fugate

    CMI is entirely an apologetics ministry staffed by individuals with degrees in science. As with any such ministry, the working principle is always “the ends justify the means” – much worse that one should lose faith in science than Jesus. Or in other words, scientific truth is just collateral damage in the battle for the Truth™.

  3. The most astonishing thing in this was that gary can write at all, as he clearly demonstrated his IQ is in the neg number range.

  4. “The irony is that one could take all of the Earth’s oceans, lakes and rivers, and no life would evolve.”
    Now this is operational science a la creacrap.

  5. Karl Goldsmith (@KarlGoldsmith)

    “There is no such thing as spontaneous generation” And this why creationism where they just poof into existence is wrong, like the IDiots when spout the Cambrian.

  6. Michael Fugate

    Gallop’s PhD is in Science Education
    “The effect of student -centered and teacher -centered instruction with and without conceptual advocacy on biology students’ misconceptions, achievement, attitudes toward science, and cognitive retention”
    Gallop, Roger Graham. Florida Institute of Technology, 2002.

    Ironic, no?

    I can’t find the concept inventory he used, but he seems hung up on spontaneous generation, even then.

  7. Michael Fugate

    Not to mention in his book, Gallop claims evolution violates both the first and second laws of thermodynamics. No misconceptions there, no, none at all.

  8. There are a couple of Wikipedia articles of interest:
    Biological thermodynamics
    Entropy and life

  9. So Gary, which of the 10,000 or so gods running around should we take at his/her/its word and why?

  10. We simply should take God at His word: “In six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them” (Exodus 20:11).

    Ah, yes. It’s in the Bible, so it must be true, because the Bible is God’s Word, and we know it’s God’s Word because . . . well, because. (Well, there are some entertaining attempts at proof, but nothing a rational person would take seriously. That’s why it has to be taken on faith.)

  11. The Aztec deity Quetzalcoatl must surely have existed, because there’s a pterosaur named for him. Yahweh can’t boast that.

    @abeastwood: “There’s just as much evidence for the 10,000 or so other gods as there is for your god.”

    Gary: “What evidence is that?”

    @abeastwood: “Absolutely none, apart from mythology.”

    Forgive me for this imagined conversation. I just couldn’t resist.

  12. @EricL gets lost near the end: “It’s in the Bible, so it must be true, because the Bible is God’s Word, and we know it’s God’s Word because …..”
    it’s in the Bible, duh.

  13. abeastwood wants Gary to tell him:

    which of the 10,000 or so gods running around should we take at his/her/its word and why?

    All Creationists, of whatever stripe, will give you the precise same answer as to which one, viz.:

    “Mine!”

    And the selfsame answer as to why you should so choose:

    “Because infidels deserve only death.”

  14. Gallop’s book appears to be an Amazon worst seller, but it does have a favourable blurb repeated four times on the Amazon page.

    Red Butte Press “honors and extends the traditions of fine press printing, producing finely crafted, limited editions,” accordong to its page at http://www.lib.utah.edu/collections/red-butte-press/about/. Is Gallop a self-published genius?

    Let me quote from that book (P 11 of a generous Look Inside): “The first and second laws apply qually as well to open and closed systems. In all these systems, these laws have never been refuted. [Emphasis in original].

    So there you are. Water never freezes and nothing ever cools down, because that would violate the second law for these open systems.

    Moreover, “Lucy … is ape-like, and many evolutionists no longer consider it transitional to humans.” (P 143).

    And mammoths overwhelmed in the middle of their dinner, proving a rapid Flood, and numerous other delights

  15. As far as the laws of thermodynamics applying to open and closed systems;
    This involves semantics.
    One can strictly state the laws so that they apply universally. But to say that the second law, for example, says that entropy increases, that is not true about open systems. That is not to say that the 2nd law is violated.
    If there is a source of low entropy energy entering into a system, such as is the case of sunlight falling on life on Earth, there is no difficulty for entropy decreasing in that system. By the way, there is also the radiation from Earth into the cold of space that should also be taken into account.

  16. Them: Life didn’t come from non-life.
    Me: But you say God came from nothing?
    Them: No, God always existed.
    Me: Glad that’s settled.