Discoveroids: Venus and Intelligent Design

This article recently appeared at PhysOrg: NASA wants to send humans to Venus – here’s why that’s a brilliant idea. Two brief excerpts should be sufficient:

As revealed by numerous missions in the last few decades, rather than being a paradise, the planet is a hellish world of infernal temperatures, a corrosive toxic atmosphere and crushing pressures at the surface. Despite this, NASA is currently working on a conceptual manned mission to Venus, named the High Altitude Venus Operational Concept – (HAVOC).


Luckily, the idea behind NASA’s new mission is not to land people on the inhospitable surface, but to use the dense atmosphere as a base for exploration. No actual date for a HAVOC type mission has been publicly announced yet. This mission is a long term plan and will rely on small test missions to be successful first. Such a mission is actually possible, right now, with current technology. The plan is to use airships which can stay aloft in the upper atmosphere for extended periods of time.

We weren’t going to write about it — but then we spotted this at the Discovery Institute’s creationist blog: Denton: Science on Venus? It was written by Klinghoffer. Fortunately, it’s brief. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

What a difference having just the right atmosphere makes. NASA has announced a scheme to fly manned airships in the upper atmosphere of Venus, thus evading the “hellish” conditions (that adjective is often applied to the planet) below.

You’re probably wondering: What can the Discoveroids do with that? Don’t forget, dear reader: everything is evidence of intelligent design. Klinghoffer says:

On a new episode of ID the Future [their pile of creationist podcasts], Sarah Chaffee talks with biologist Michael Denton about his new book, Children of Light.

That again? See Discoveroids: More About Denton’s New Book. Then he tells us:

She asks him about his observation, echoing Carl Sagan, that if there ever could have been life on the surface of Venus, those life forms would be severely impeded in whatever pursuit of science they may have attempted. Why? Because the thick atmosphere impedes the rays of the sun, and all other light, which would mean being forever forbidden from gazing to the stars and trying learn about their place in the cosmos.

Forever forbidden? Not necessarily. The hypothetical Venusians could have experimented with balloons. Then they could rise high enough to make observations We didn’t know much about the universe either, until we developed telescopes and other instruments. Anyway, Klinghoffer continues:

Download the podcast or listen to it here.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! We’re omitting the link. Let’s read on:

They go on to discuss the wondrous confluence of properties and processes — light, the nature of Earth’s atmosphere, photosynthesis — that make it possible for “light-eaters” like us to live on Earth where we could not on Venus.

Ooooooooooooh! It’s wondrous! And now we come to the end:

Yes, Denton concedes, he regards that confluence as the result of “divine” intent.

Divine intent? Perhaps. What do you think, dear reader?

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6 responses to “Discoveroids: Venus and Intelligent Design

  1. What if Venus had one been hospitable to life, and had a flurishing civilization but didn’t pay attention to the runaway greenhouse effect? What if we found the remains of civilization on Venus?

  2. Please pay attention, TomS – our dear SC already addressed this with “everything is evidence of IDiocy”. So is your hypothetical scenario.

  3. Of course.
    We have already heard about however the laws of thermodynamics and conservation of Complex Specified Information make life impossible on Earth … THEREFORE life is the product of Intelligent Design.

  4. Dave Luckett

    The fact that Earth is the only place in the Universe that we know of where life as we know it (Jim) has arisen is an argument for divine creation. The fact that the Universe except for this sliver of a fraction of a fragment is nearly all inimical to life as we know it (Jim) is also an argument for divine creation. Why can’t godless Darwinists see the obvious? Everything is an argument for divine creation!

  5. Not “Divine Creation” but rather “Intelligent Design”, where ID means that there is a better explanation than naturalistic evolution.
    Clearly, what that better explanation is, is dependent on what is being explained. If we observe that Earth is privileged by being fit for life, the better explanation X is different from the better explanation Y, the one we infer from life being inconsistent with the laws of thermodynamics, or from the better explanation Z, the one which is inferred from our not having been there and then to know what the laws of nature had been.

  6. Techreseller

    God here. Messed up a bit on Venus. Meant to make the atmosphere a bit thinner. Had to start over on Earth. Sorry about Venus.