Ken Ham Proves the Bible Is True

At last, dear reader, we have what you’ve been looking for. It’s at — where else? — the website of Answers in Genesis (AIG), the creationist ministry of Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo) — the ayatollah of Appalachia, the world’s holiest man who knows more about religion and science than everyone else. He just posted this: Get Answers: How Do We Know the Bible Is True? Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

How do we know the Bible is true? Well, ultimately, we know it must be true because it claims to be the Word of God [scripture reference] and God cannot lie [scripture reference].

Well, yes, but here’s something you’ve seen here before:

Self-Proving Truth Certificate

Everything written by the Curmudgeon in this blog is true. The presence of this Certificate is your proof. Our logic is undeniable.

So like the waif in Oliver Twist, we say to Hambo: “Please, sir, I want some more.” And he obliges! He says:

But Christians don’t have a blind faith in the Bible and its teachings (atheists have a blind faith that life arose by natural processes, which goes against observational science). [The fools!] There’s evidence that confirms the Bible’s claim that it is indeed the revealed Word of God and true in all it says.

Ah, Hambo has evidence. He tells us:

Here are just three separate lines of evidence that confirm what the Bible teaches about itself:

Wowie — three separate lines of evidence! Here’s the first:

Science. What we observe in the world confirms what we read in Scripture: organisms reproduce according to their kinds [scripture reference]; fossils and rock layers are the watery graveyard from the flood of Noah’s day; and genetics shows we’re all once race, as the Bible teaches [scripture reference].

That’s thin gruel indeed, especially considering what the bible says about the flat Earth, the firmament, and the fixed location of the Earth, around which the Sun and the other lights in the sky revolve. (The Curmudgeon’s three f’s.) So what else do you have, Hambo? Here’s his second line of evidence:

Archaeology. Many times archaeologists have scoffed at people, events, or places mentioned in the Bible only to find evidence of these same people, events, or places later. For example, Isaiah 20:1 mentions an Assyrian king named Sargon. No such king was found on Assyrian king lists so archaeologists and historians assumed the Bible was wrong — until they discovered his palace and an inscription endorsing the very battle mentioned by Isaiah!

Wowie! But as we said before in Ken Ham: It’s Twue, It’s Twue!:

The bible is a collection of mythology, folk-history, poetry, morality tales, rituals, and other things. But some of its historical references mention real places and people — Egypt existed, as did Babylon and other places, and some of the rulers mentioned in the bible actually existed. But that doesn’t mean the entire book is accurate. Gone with the Wind mentions Robert E. Lee and Abe Lincoln, who were real, and a place called Atlanta really was burned by the Yankees. But Gone with the Wind is far from true in every detail. Similarly, there’s no reason to think that everything in the Iliad is true, merely because there really was a place called Troy.

Here’s Hambo’s third line of evidence:

Theology. The Bible was written over a period of 1,600 years by over 40 human authors and yet it is utterly consistent in its message. If the Bible were cobbled together over such a long time by so many people and without an ultimate Author, we’d expect inconsistencies, mistakes, and major changes of theme. But we don’t find that. Instead we have a book that doesn’t contradict itself, contains no mistakes, and has a consistent theme — the redemption of sinful man by the holy Creator God.

Wowie — no inconsistencies! But if you Google for “bible inconsistencies” you’ll find an ark-load.

The rest of Hambo’s post promotes a book and a video, so we’ll leave him here. He’s happy, his drooling followers are happy, and you, dear reader, will be spending eternity in the Lake of Fire.

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23 responses to “Ken Ham Proves the Bible Is True

  1. Born in the South and raised in Atlanta and you say Gone With The Wind ain’t true??!! Well bless your heart, there are sill some Yankees in Georgia. That alone is all I need to prove every word that Miss Margret wrote. They found a rock with David written on it – do you really need more proof that every word is true.

  2. A technical point.
    We can admit that God does not – even that God cannot – lie.
    That is because whatever God does is not subject to human judgement.
    God cannot murder. God cannot rob. Whatever God does is just.
    And God cannot lie.
    Yes, obviously, God kills people, but not all killing is murder. Even we flawed mortals can kill without it being murder.
    God takes away our property by force. But, after all, whatever we have has been given to us by God in the first place. “The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.”
    And, being mere finite creatures of God, only have finite time and finite ability to do wrong, so whatever we do wrong is only finite. Yet God, in his justice, can condemn us to torture for infinity.
    And lying?
    Everybody knows that there are times when we are justified in not telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. When the crazed murderer asks us where he can find more victims, he does not deserve the truth from us. We are not lying when we point him to the location where the SWAT squad is waiting.
    And, anyway, we, being of mere finite capacity, there is no way that we can be told the whole truth.
    Just as God is not to be judged by human standards of murder and robbery,
    so, too, we must admit that God cannot lie.
    Yet that does not mean that what God says must come up to our mere human standards of what is the truth. `
    … to be continued … What is truth? …

  3. Eddie Janssen

    Completely off-topic:

    About that rectangular ice sheet:

    If it looks designed, it may not be designed.

  4. Michael Fugate
    I am not sure where Ken got his information, but his take doesn’t fit with Sargon legends…

  5. Eddie Janssen

    Tom S
    This looks like the beginning of a description of Stockholm Syndrom.

  6. You could try reconciling the dating given for the birth of Jesus. Was Herod king in Jerusalem and Cyrenius governor of Syria at the time, as the Gospels say? Or, as secular history insists, did their incumbencies not even overlap?

    Or even better, what about the details surrounding the central event of Christianity, the resurrection. Was there a young man in the tomb? (Mark) Or an angel? (Matthew) Or two angels? (Luke) Or nobody at all?(John) Were the women told that Jesus was not there, or was Jesus actually right there in the garden? Was the stone found rolled away when they arrived, or did an angel roll it? Did the guards faint dead away, or weren’t they there at all?

    If these accounts were inspired of God, let alone if God were the author of them, as Ken Ham insists, wouldn’t they be consistent with one another? Or are we to take the view that these are the products of fallible human beings, filtered through fallible human memories, with the usual human tendency to embellish and fantasize? If not, how else are the inconsistencies to be explained?

    The short fact is that they are not to be explained any other way, unless you regard God as an unreliable witness, which puts the skids under any notion that the Bible is a truthful account straight off. But it’s not necessary to do that, when human error is so commonplace and reasonable an explanation.

    Or it’s possible to reject reality altogether, as Ken Ham does. Well, it’s possible for him, anyway.

  7. @ Michael Fugate: That’s a different chap, an earlier King of Akkadia; the one mentioned in the Bible is Sargon II of Assyria.

    What I cannot find, however, are any accounts of “archaeologists and historians” claiming he did not exist because he did not appear on “Assyrian king lists”. If that happened–and I can’t say that it didn’t–my guess would be that it was back in the 19th century (or earlier), prior to modern archaeology.

    Any specialists here who can improve my knowledge here? Ta.

  8. Megalonyx, all I know about Sargon is from the Star Trek episode Return to Tomorrow.

  9. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16

    What is truth?
    Ther are different answers to this. Three of the most popular are:
    Correspondence Someting is true means that there is something in the world whch corresponds to it. “Snow is white” if snow is white.
    Coherence Someting is true when it is in agreement with everything else which is true.
    Pragmatic Someting is true when it is useful. When it works.

    The epistle to Timothy tells us that Scripture is useful, useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction – in righteousness. This, if truth, is not a correspondance or coherence theory of truth – it is a pragmatic truth, whether it works for righteousness.

  10. “Science. What we observe in the world confirms what we read in Scripture.”
    Just after he threw science into the dustbin because Scriptures determines what can be called science and what cannot.

    BWAHAHAHAHA! Except that archaeology decisively has not found anything regarding Moses, his band and his farao. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence here, because we would expect it in the Sinai and archaeologists have done a thorough search.

    BWAHAHAHAHA! The first Introduction to College Theology jointly written by an Opus Dei theologian, a catholic liberation theologian, an orthodox-protestant theologian and a liberal protestant theologian yet has to be written.

  11. @TomS: thanks for demonstrating that Ol’Hambo’s morals are as subjective as yours and mine. Whether genocide is evil or not depends on the question which subject committed it – Ol’Hambo’s god or you.

  12. Does anyone else suspect that Hambo hasn’t actually read the bible? Dave Luckett has pointed out enough inconsistencies above to demonstrate that Hambo is either lying or ignorant when he claims the bible “doesn’t contradict itself, contains no mistakes”.

  13. Michael Fugate

    Thanks Megalonyx – this list says that Sargon II ruled after one of the lists ended – no wonder he wasn’t on it…

  14. abeastwood wash your mouth out with soap and go straight to your room. You just wait until your father gets home. (grumble, ‘Ken Ham is lying or ignorant’! What has become of this young generation?)

  15. If one thinks that the Bible is a unique source of what is important, I would think that one would learn the Biblical languages, Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. How many people have read the Bible in the original languages?

  16. Michael Fugate

    Better yet, build a time machine an travel back to the time and place the events happened – if they happened…

  17. But how can one prove that a time machine is working correctly?
    It is like believing that a microscope is accurately showing the existence of microbes.

  18. Michael Fugate

    When it matches the Bible?

  19. The gap between Ham’s Bible-is-literally-true universe and the real world keeps widening all the time.
    If you just follow the latest findings in genetics (Svante Pääbo’s recent talk on Neanderthal history is a good example, the details of today’s findings are so overwhelming and the results corroborate with other disciplines. One must be wilfully blind to ignore that.

    All that doesn’t conflict with a religious belief that God used the process of evolution to create the diversity of life. A disciple of Ken Ham, however, has to regard all that evidence as a giant conspiracy to disprove the Bible. That idea is becoming more and more ludicrous and incongruous.

  20. @hans435
    There is nothing in the Bible which says anything about evolution. Nothing about there being “microevolution” (for example, a burst of microevolution after the Flood), nothing about there being a barrier to microevolution which prevents macroevolution. There is nothing in the Bible about the majority of the world of life on Earth, microbes, in particular, their origins and evolution.
    (What was in the dirt which gave rise to humans?)

  21. @Curmie:

    “One day our minds became so powerful, we dared think of ourselves as GODS. “….

    Always one of my favorite eps!

  22. @FrankB
    I am not demonstrating such a thing about God’s morals. I am stating a standard position for explaining, for example, the troubles of Job. Read what Job says in chapter 42.

  23. @TomS: “God is not to be judged by human standards of murder and robbery”
    Because God is God and God is not you.