We’re always looking for creationist entertainment, so we were delighted when We Found Jason Lisle’s New Website. As you recall, he’s the creationist astrophysicist who used to work for ol’ Hambo’s Answers in Genesis. He left Hambo a few years ago to go with the Institute for Creation Research. Now he’s on his own.
Jason doesn’t post often, but today he gives us a long email debate he had with someone named Colin: Is Genesis Historic and Reliable? We hope it won’t be too much of a spoiler if we tell you that Jason claims the answer is “Yes.” Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:
[Colin asks:] Dr Lisle, why do you think the Bible is Scientific or reliable when most Ancient Historians know it is historized Fiction?
[Jason answers:]: Actually, ancient historians verified much of Scripture. Consider the writings of historians like Josephus and Herodotus and how they confirmed many of the events of the Bible as literal history. [What?] Modern archeology has further confirmed many of the events recorded in Scripture. The fallen walls of Jericho have been excavated. The remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah have been found. What gave you the impression that the Bible is historized fiction? As a matter of procedure, how do you know what happened in the distant past so that you can check the record of the Bible? [Were you there?]
The Bible has demonstrated itself to be God’s Word, and must therefore be accurate on all matters on which it touches. This necessarily includes science and history. You can easily check some of the scientific claims yourself. For example, the Bible teaches that you will reap what you sow (Galatians 6:7). Why not perform a scientific experiment to test the claim? Plant some corn and see what grows. If corns grows, then the Bible is right in its scientific claim. But if strawberries spring from your corn kernels, then you would at least have some basis for claiming that the Bible has scientific errors.
This is very disappointing. We thought Jason was a smart guy and so we were expecting better. Well, here’s the next question:
[Colin says:] Even other Christians don’t agree with you let alone Sceptics [sic]:
[Jason responds:] Actually, many Christians agree with me. But even if the majority of people are ignorant of history, this has no bearing on the truth of the historical events recorded in Scripture. Even most secular historians understand that the Bible contains accurate history, even if they don’t agree with all of the details. The existence of Abraham as recorded in Genesis, for example, is well established.
We could be inserting a “Groan” or “Gasp” or “Hee hee!” into every sentence, but it’s not worth the bother. Here’s one more exchange between the two:
[Colin asks:] Why do people laugh at creationists?
[Jason responds:] Proverbs 29:9. When you cannot answer your opponent rationally, mockery and laughter are often substituted. People laughed at Copernicus for his belief that the Earth orbits the sun, and at Galileo for his belief that the moon had craters. This is utterly irrelevant to any rational consideration at all. Incidentally, you will either be laughed at and mocked by people, or you will be laughed at and mocked by the God of Truth (Psalm 2:4). It’s your decision.
We’ve only given you about 10% of Jason’s post. If you crave more, click over there and enjoy yourself. Hey — we’re starting to figure out why Jason kept leaving his earlier creationist employers. Maybe the quality of his work wasn’t up to their standards.
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