Who Wrote the Bible? ICR Knows!

The answer to one of your biggest questions may be answered at the website of the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) — the granddaddy of all creationist outfits, the fountainhead of young-earth creationist wisdom. Their title is Trailer for New Moses Documentary. It was written by Jake Herbert. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

Filmmaker Tim Mahoney recently released a trailer for a new documentary that ought to be of great interest to Bible-believing Christians and skeptics alike. The movie, Patterns of Evidence: The Moses Controversy, answers the question: Did Moses really write the first five books of the Bible? The trailer can be viewed at the Fathom Events website.

We haven’t looked at the trailer, but you may want to. Then Jake says:

Mahoney’s popular 2015 documentaryPatterns of Evidence: Exodus discussed the historical evidence for the Exodus and received very positive reviews by several creation ministries, including ICR

If ICR liked it, it must have been really good. Jake tells us:

Mahoney’s second documentary [the new one, presumably] addresses the claim by secular academics that Moses couldn’t possibly have been the original author or editor of the first five books of the Bible — the Torah. Liberal Bible critics routinely claim that the Pentateuch was written centuries after the time of Moses, casting doubts on the reliability of the eyewitness record.

This is a huge issue for creationists. Wikipedia has an article on the controversy — see Mosaic authorship. Jake continues:

Worse yet, this claim implies that the Lord Jesus Himself was in error [Gasp!] when He affirmed the Mosaic authorship of those books [several bible references].

ICR’s brief post ends with this:

Conservative scholars have already soundly refuted these claims, but it will be interesting to see what additional arguments Mahoney has marshaled. Since ICR staff members haven’t yet seen the movie, we can’t officially endorse it, but if it’s anything like Mahoney’s first movie, it ought to be spectacular. Patterns of Evidence: The Moses Controversy is scheduled for a limited release at select theaters March 14, 16, and 19.

Well, dear reader, you’re not going to miss it, are you? When you get to the box office, tell ’em the Curmudgeon sent ya.

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15 responses to “Who Wrote the Bible? ICR Knows!

  1. ‘Worse yet, this claim implies that the Lord Jesus Himself was in error [Gasp!] when He affirmed the Mosaic authorship of those books —‘ Jesus also said the Flud really, really happened (Matt-Luke), but we know that never happened.

  2. I can just see it, now: me, at the box office for the new Moses doco.

    Ticket seller: “How did you hear about ‘Patterns of Evidence?’
    Me: “Er, well, the Curmudgeon sent me.”
    Ticket seller: “Is that the guy Ken Ham tried to ban? Get outta here, you!”

  3. Charles Deetz ;)

    “It ought to be spectacular.” Something you might say about the Lego Movie or Captain Marvel, but Patterns of Evidence? Really?

  4. Michael Fugate

    How was Moses an eyewitness before Adam and Eve?

  5. Their concept of “eyewitness” includes “secondhand”.

  6. Michael Fugate

    And third hand and fourth hand and made up, etc.

  7. Dave Luckett

    We see here, yet again, that people who assert that they believe the Bible often impute to it things that it does NOT say.

    Jesus never said that the Genesis accounts were literal fact. He referred to them as instructive stories, narratives containing truths. He told many such stories of his own. Human beings refer to their own literature in those terms all the time. If I tell you not to cry wolf, do I mean to imply that the story is literal fact? If I remark that the grapes are sour, do I believe that there was a fox who said that?

    The Bible citations in the article never have Jesus saying that Moses wrote the Pentateuch. The words say that Moses said this or that, which only means that whoever wrote them long after claimed to be quoting Moses in those particular instances only, not asserting that Moses wrote it all. Yes, Jesus used the expression “The book of Moses”, which was how the books were and are referred to by Jewish people – just as I may use the expression “The Alice books” without implying that “Alice in Wonderland” and “Through the Looking Glass” were written by her.

    All statements about history must be taken to mean the least that they can legitimately mean. The reader – and most especially the exegesist – is not entitled to add meaning to them. This should apply in spades to text that is said to be holy. But it doesn’t. People like this clown add their own take, all the time. Probably he hasn’t the least inkling that he’s actually doing it. That’s because, like all the sect-bots, he is incapable of examining either the text or himself.

  8. Many, probably a comfortable majority of fundamentalists, argue that Moses didn’t write the ending of Deuteronomy.
    It is about the death of Moses.
    By the same reasoning, one can deduce that other passages were not written by Moses. Yet, these people are not noted for their consistency, and insist that all of those other passages were written by Moses.

  9. Isn’t it amazing en wonderful what you can permit beginning with “theology is the queen of the sciences”?

  10. “Patterns of Evidence: The Moses Controversy is scheduled for a limited release at select theaters March 14, 16, and 19.”

    “limited release” means only in those locations where a sufficient number of ultra credulous creationists will buy enough tickets to keep the theatre open.

  11. “Well, dear reader, you’re not going to miss it, are you? When you get to the box office, tell ’em the Curmudgeon sent ya.”

    Well, since the Grand Curmudgeon opened the topic of this thread to “touting” movies, I highly recommend the just-released documentary Apollo 11.

    Being old enough to witness the original as an adult, seeing the movie brought tears to my eyes. Very moving. All original audio and footage, including the portions of Walter Cronkite’s narration (with the exception of some simple explanatory diagrams). I saw it in IMAX, but I’m sure it is just as stirring in any format. In fact, a regular theater presentation might be truer to the original, since the deep, over-amplified bass of IMAX is not well-suited to speech. (However, the feeling you get from the huge bass response of IMAX is probably closer to what you would have experienced if you had been present at lift-off. You can really feel the the pounding bass in your chest. I’ll see what a “regular” movie house does in that regard.)

    My only quibble — the communication time-lag caused by the 245,000 mile distance seems to have been edited out, but I’m not sure. The three-second delay between a simple question from Earth and the response from the moon was very apparent while watching the event live in 1969, but I didn’t hear it in the movie. It could be they just didn’t use any such audio clips in the film, but I was listening for it.

    At any rate, I’m sure the readers of The Curmudgeon’s blog will enjoy Apollo 11 much more than Patterns of Evidence: The Moses Controversy.

  12. I don’t know what the fuss is about. It clear to anyone who chooses to look – of course the books were written by Moses.

    Moses had quite distinctive handwriting; not just related to how he held his pen, but his choice of nib as well. The main controversy has surrounded ink. Being in the desert for such a long time, Moses found it hard to get a consistent supply of good quality ink. So, he would often have to throw away a draft he was doing and start again.

    Of course, this inevitably led to some of those “inconsistencies” that are to be found in Genesis. Like the flat earth; well you do ten or twelve drafts of a book and see if some little differences don’t sneak in. But true scholars, and I don’t mean those fellows who quibble over archaic definitions of words, “know” what Moses intended. It’s quite like “Intelligent Design”; I mean, you look at it, you read it, and you just “know” that Moses was the author.

  13. TomS says: “Moses didn’t write the ending of Deuteronomy.
    It is about the death of Moses.”

    “Look, if he was dying, he wouldn’t have bothered to carve ‘Aaaauuuggghhhh’. He’d just say it.” – Monty Python and Holy Grail

    Took me a lot of years to realize what they were poking fun at there!

    Me, I’ll take the word of Finkelstein and Silberman in “The Bible Unearthed”. Written long after the fact, from legends and myths, and with healthy exageration for political gain.

  14. So much inspired silliness.