Discoveroids’ Seminar — Somebody Please Come!


This is a mystery far beyond our ability to understand. Wouldja believe it? There are still openings available at The Discoveroids’ 2019 Creationist Seminar.

We told you about the event more than a month ago. Then we blogged about it a few weeks later — see Discoveroids’ 2019 Seminar — You Gotta Hurry! After that the Discoveroids announced that there were still openings at the event, so we wrote this a week ago: Discoveroids’ 2019 Seminar — Not Filled Up Yet. And they’re still not filled up!

The Discovery Institute just posted this at their creationist blog: Summer Seminars on Intelligent Design: 9 Days in Seattle; Deadline Is 8 Days Away; FREE. It was written by Klinghoffer. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

The Summer Seminars on Intelligent Design are nine days in the gorgeous Pacific Northwest, July 5 to 13, studying the science you can’t study in the vast majority of U.S universities.

Got that? You can’t study this stuff at “the vast majority of U.S universities.” The Darwinists won’t allow it. That’s also true of the Time Cube, the Flat Earth, and the almighty Cosmic Aardvark. But millions of people want to know The Truth! So why are the Discoveroids having so much trouble attracting people to attend? Klinghoffer says:

The deadline is looming [registration link omitted] — Tuesday, April 2, by close of business.

Ooooooooooooh! The deadline is looming! And expenses are no problem! Klinghoffer tells us:

Thanks to our generous donors, this is a fantastic FREE opportunity, with tuition, materials, housing, food, even (where needed) airfare paid for.

How is it possible that they’re not over-subscribed tenfold? Klinghoffer continues:

The Summer Seminars are intended for undergraduate and graduate students, in the sciences and humanities.

Ooooooooooooh! You don’t have to be a science student. Your specialty can be sociology or gender studies. Everyone needs to learn about the intelligent designer — blessed be he!

This is the end of Klinghoffer’s brief post:

More information and an application are here [link omitted]. Don’t miss that deadline! If you are not a student yourself, do share this with a student you know.

We’ve asked this before, but it seems appropriate to ask it again: Why are the Discoveroids begging for people to attend? What’s going on here?

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18 responses to “Discoveroids’ Seminar — Somebody Please Come!

  1. “The Summer Seminars are intended for undergraduate and graduate students, in the sciences and humanities [who are also ultra-credulous morons].”

  2. “…FREE opportunity, with tuition, materials, housing, food, even (where needed) airfare paid for.”

    Wow, that clearly shows how desperate they are!

  3. Michael Fugate

    Hey kids, win friends, get dates, be the first on your block. Maybe they should mention the swag bag – I “heart” Darwin t-shirt, dark glasses, and fake teeth and beard to keep from being expelled. Don’t forget the dog whistle autographed by all the DI fellows.

  4. The Tooters are really a fly-by-night organization that is aging out. Their only “theorist,” Dr. Dr. Billy Dumbski quit but not before announcing to the world that his Opus Minimus, the Nixplanatory Filter ™ didn’t work and never would. Disgraced former scientist Mikey Behe is simply re-printing his old tripe through a religious publishing house. Meyer collects money, for what we don’t know. And, occasionally Savvy and Green Screen drop a 400-word blog posting that takes less than an hour to write. Even the Gerb took a hike. It’s not even a cult anymore; just a collection of crackpots.

    Look at ICR and AIG in comparison. Both are making tons of money. Both are hiring young people. ICR still sells its hokey Masters of Pseudoscience and Tire Repair degree. Old Hambo has a “thriving” museum and amusement park.

    The Tooters, on the other hand, simply hunker down in their moldy, second floor walk-up over a gym in Seattle and complain about how badly they are treated. Truth is, nobody knows who they are. ID isn’t being suppressed on campus, it’s simply not there, less than insignificant, not even a passing thought. What do college students do during the summer? Internships, summer jobs and stuff like that. What college student is going to take off work (even if that was possible) to go to Seattle and hang out with a bunch of old crackpots? None.

    At least the Gerb was on the right track trying to start campus IDEA clubs, but those got sunk pretty fast once school administrations read the fine print that club officers must be Christians. All science, all the time! The good news is that the IDEA clubs are gone and have been for over a decade. Think about that: the last IDEA club went extinct when current college students were 10-years old!

  5. I told Klingie, I told him. We’re at the pub the other day and he’s cryin’ in his beer about some course he can’t fill and it’s even ‘free’. And I says to him, “Mate, what did you expect? All the bright young things are doing finance, accounting, marketing – stuff they can earn a living with. No-one studies science any more, it’s all done by machines.”

    So I says, “Mate, just give it a few days. Then write a couple of ya best poo-flingers about how the Darwinists have ‘frightened off’ the young ones. I mean, look how Mickey Behe’s mates at Le High got stuck into him. And poor Annie Gauger, she’s still recovering from her Peaceful stint. So what fool at Uni is gunna risk their career by comin’ to ya course even if it is free?” Well, he brightened up, we had another drink or three, and he went home with lots of notes written on the back of some beer coasters. Though I’ll be blowed if he can read them in the morning, if you know what I mean.

  6. Michael McCants

    Coming this summer: “The Return of the God Hypothesis: Compelling Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God” by Stephen Meyer.

    He has come full circle. From a 1998 article (The Return of the God Hypothesis) to this book 21 years later.

    Apparently they have given up trying to do science (oops – they never actually did any science except the irrelevant nonsense that Axe did) and gone to full apologetics.

    From the Amazon blurb:

    “Meyer uses three scientific points to refute popular arguments put forward by the “New Atheists” against the existence of God”

    Right. But there is only one claim – there is no evidence for a “god”.

    But actually, the three supposed arguments listed are the usual arguments FOR a “god”.

  7. “And they’re still not filled up!”
    Tsssk. If would pay my travel and other expenses I surely would visit their lectures.

    “You can’t study this stuff at “the vast majority of U.S universities.”
    Ah, but here we have an excellent explanation! We can perfectly study IDiocy and other forms of creacrap via internet. What new would we learn at this seminar? Perhaps Klinkleclapper should give us a few teasers.

  8. “Right. But there is only one claim – there is no evidence for a “god”.
    Actually there are three ones – and with some good will one of them can be seen as an improved version of this crappy one. See, evidence by definition is taken from our natural reality while gods by definition is supposed to be supernatural. So your claim is a category error – ironically the same one Klinkleclapper and other IDiots are guilty of.

    1. God is an incoherent concept.
    2. There is no method to decide whether god-claims are correct or incorrect.
    3. God doesn’t add anything to our knowledge and understanding of our natural reality (this is the improved version of your crappy one).

    You can

  9. docbill1351

    It’s the old Bait and Switch with Meyer; always has been. He did this once before in a two or three video series where he claims he’s going to explain the “theory” of “intelligent design” (creationism), and prove the existence of the Grand Old Designer (blessed be he). I watched those videos, Clockwork Orange-style and … nothing. For over an hour of my life, wasted – and not in a good way – I sat there waiting with bait breath (curse you sardines!). Nope, never defined design or SCI or any of the other hokey terms.

    The shorter Meyer proof is this: Hey, man, have you ever looked at your hand, man? I mean, like, really, really looked at it.

  10. Karl Goldsmith

    I do love that Dumski says on his website. “He repudiates none of his work on intelligent design, and may at some point return to working in this area.”

    Did you know he comes across as an anti-vaxxer.

  11. Michael Fugate

    One can read Meyer’s earlier “Return of the God Hypothesis” in Interdisciplinary Studies. He purports to show that God and the Christian God no less should be inferred as the best explanation of data in biology and cosmology. His attempt is in the last couple of pages after a ton of blather and it is fact-free. A bunch of quotes from a 1992 LA Times article written by David Briggs on the big bang and religion seems to be his basis….

    “Christian cosmology and the Big Bang are very compatible understandings of the arrow of time,” the Rev. Frederic B. Burnham, a science historian and director of the Trinity Institute in New York City, said last week. “There was a beginning and there will be an end.”

    Burnham had a PhD in history of science from Johns Hopkins (1970) and taught at Wayne State before becoming a full-time minister at Trinity Church in NYC.

    Much like Behe’s new book, there won’t be anything new in Meyer’s – just more apologetics. The idea that Genesis predicted modern science is comic. What happens next week when it doesn’t?

  12. They cannot fill their seminar… As an incentive they could consider handing out cash prizes on the last day. For the best ideas on advancing ID.

    But seriously, ID never made inroads into academic circles. It may even be dying. But it is hugely popular with the masses. If YE creationism is too crazy for you, then the average non-scientifically minded Christians will go for ID. For a layperson it is quite undistinguishable from theistic evolution – despite Stephen Meyer’s 1000-page opus to discredit theistic evolution. And ID promises a ‘scientific proof’ for the existence of God. That’s what people want.

  13. docbill1351

    “But it is hugely popular with the masses.”

    Yeah, but. Yeah, but the masses simply say “intelligent design” and look smug. Not a single yokel can articulate more than a sentence on the subject, probably because there isn’t more than a sentence on the subject.

    Typical legislator says, “We should teach intelligent design in the classroom.”
    All the cohorts harrumph-harrumph together approvingly. Yet, beyond those two words they don’t have the foggiest clue.

    In a similar vein, in Texas an advocacy group whined that the “Bible as literature” should be taught at the local high school as an elective. To their surprise the school board said, “OK, put together a syllabus and we’ll do it.” Turns out that their catchphrase was all they knew about the subject, a syllabus was never presented and the matter quietly dropped. The “masses” are collectively quite stupid.

  14. @docbill1351
    A course in “the Bible as literature” is apt to become a source of controversy. Imagine poinintg out to the kids the obvious lack of continuity in some of the Bible stories. Not to mention how it makes no sense to assign some of the Pentateuch to Moses – part of it make sense only with knowledge of events that did not happen in the lifetime of Moses or of his original audience.

  15. docbill1351

    A course in “the Bible as literature” is a ruse. “They” just want Bible. Antenna hands would be nice, maybe a few snakes, some speaking in tongues – you know, scholarship.

    Mostly they just wanted to stink up the place and get some attention. Much easier to gnash teeth, wail and cry than do something, you know, actually constructive.

    Hobby Lobby to the rescue and this time in Oklahoma, I think. Bible thumper and Hobby Lobby chief preaching officer, Green, provided a syllabus, but it was deemed to be a proselytizing document and nothing else; it was rejected. Well, no duh! These aren’t the brightest cattle in the herd and I doubt they could put together a syllabus for Charles Dickens in Literature.

    All the flimflammery aside, though, what actually irks me is the sneaky, underhanded, dishonest way these doofuses go about trying to get the Good Book and morality (!) into the school. Talk about beams in eyes.

  16. Michael Fugate
  17. There is a Norton Critical Edition of the King James Bible. For example, one volume for the Old Testament, edited by Herbert Marks, 2012. Lots of footnotes. And there are additional readimgs, about 600 pages worth. I think that it is directed to college students.

  18. The Discoveroids aren’t using much imagination when it comes to their PR. They should be maximizing green screen technology, getting some paid mouse jockey to insert digital crowds into some of those publicity shots that feature dags like Meyer and Axe giving power point presentations.

    Just go the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings route and fake masses of student orcs, filling the frame from one end to the other. I’d send some of my spies along, just to help boost numbers, but I need them at home, to keep an eye on neighboring cats who keep defecating in my garden.

    It’s either cats, or someone pretending to be one.