Discovery Institute, Diarrhea, and the Designer

Like a musical group that has found its sound, the Discovery Institute has found its specialty. We first wrote about it back in May: Discoveroids: The Joy of Diarrhea. Now they have returned to the subject with an attention-getting title at their creationist blog: Brazilian Scientist Marcos Eberlin: More on Diarrhea by Design.

Pause for a moment to let that title play around in your mind: Diarrhea by Design. It really grabs ya, doesn’t it? Their blog post has no author’s by-line, so it’s attributable to all of them. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

On a new episode of ID the Future [Ooooooooooooh! A Discoveroid podcast!], Andrew McDiarmid continues his conversation with distinguished [Distinguished!] Brazilian scientist Marcos Eberlin, author of close to 1,000 scientific articles and the Nobel laureate-endorsed Foresight: How the Chemistry of Life Reveals Planning and Purpose. [Published by the Discovery Institute.]

What did the distinguished Brazilian scientist say? The Discoveroid blog tells us:

Their topic again is the body’s surprisingly sophisticated, all-or-nothing system for flushing bad bacteria from our guts.

Wowie — the flushing system is “surprisingly sophisticated.” The Discoveroids continue:

It took foresight to solve all the problems involved; it took foresight even to make protein chemistry work in the first place.

And we’re all grateful for such an elegant solution to the problem. Let’s read on:

“Let’s listen to the data,” says Eberlin. “Let’s surrender to the evidence” — which points to intelligent design.

Of all the evidence the Discoveroids have blogged about during the time that we’ve been following them, this is the best they’ve ever come up with. There’s no doubt about it, dear reader, we are the product of an intelligent designer — blessed be he!

And now we come to the end:

Download [Hee hee!] the episode or listen to it here. [Link omitted.]

Yeah, go ahead and … ah, download the episode.

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25 responses to “Discovery Institute, Diarrhea, and the Designer

  1. Jim Roberts

    I, for one, think it unfair that we can’t make ANY of the obvious jokes without running afoul of our gracious host’s imprecations against “blue” language.

  2. So efficient, in fact, that in the absence of treatment half of all cholera victims die of dehydration

  3. Mark Germano

    “Their topic again is the body’s surprisingly sophisticated, all-or-nothing system for flushing bad bacteria from our guts.”

    Imagine the poor Intelligent Design, Inc. staffer who had to tell the VP of New Product Development about Alexander Fleming. Hoo, boy, I’d hate to have been that guy!

  4. Mark Germano

    “Let’s listen to the data,” says Eberlin. “Let’s surrender to the evidence” — which points to intelligent design.

    I don’t know about you guys, but for me, this forever changes the phrase “Doing the Lord’s work.”

  5. From Behe’s bacterial flagellar outboard motor to a colon flushing mechanism. ID is really going downhill.

  6. And, of course, diarrhea is the way that bacteria are propagated to more hosts. A win-win! The interest of the bacteria
    Is not served by killing their hosts, only by multiplying.

  7. jimroberts

    The Gracious Omnibenevolent Designer in His/Her/Its omnipotent providence has given us the lethal recessives for cystic fibrosis. Carriers for this condition, about 5% of the population, are, however, strongly protected against death by diarrhoea.Given the historic prevalence of cholera and similar diseases, we have a balance between deaths of homozygote CF individuals and the preferential survival of heterozygotes during cholera etc outbreaks.
    (Given that there are more than a hundred known defective forms of the CF gene, it is not really correct to call a person with two different defective alleles homozygote, but I don’t know the correct terminology for such cases.)

  8. @JimRoberts, reminds me of sickle cell. Presumably someone with two *different* defective CF alleles is in trouble; the defects are recessive because the functioning form is dominant

  9. It also belatedly occurs to me to wonder; if diarrhoea is a sign of Intelligent Design, what should we say of constipation?

  10. The jokes keep writing themselves. Yes, of course it belatedly occurs to you.

  11. WOW !!!!!! Marcos !! This stuff has nuts in it……… Are you bucking for a job as a janitor and plumber in Oslo???

  12. Eric Lipps

    Flushing, you say? Well, I can’t deny there’s plenty of that associated with diarrhea. I can’t say that I see it as evidence for an all-wise Designer, though,

  13. “Diarrhea by Design” seems to sum up the entire output of the Discovery Institute.

  14. Mark Germano

    The Discovery Institute is playing fast and loose with this argument.

  15. Dave Luckett

    They should be sent to the naughty stool.

  16. Nobel laureate-endorsed?
    What — did Jimmy Carter give him a blurb for his book or something?

  17. @Paul Braterman
    ,,,diarrhea…constipation…hemorrhoids…?

  18. More verbal diarrhea from the non-discovery institute. A good design would make the existence of diarrhea impossible to begin with – you know, like smallpox* is now.

    *Humanity had to handle the latter since gawd was far too incompetent to begin with.

  19. No, @Random. Check out Amazon; one Nobel Laureate, a chemist, just speaks highly of the discussion of chemistry; another (Josephson), who does mention foresight, is a very strange character these days.

    I have seen no evidence that Carter endorses creationism, and he is one of the very few people who, for me, tends to give Christianity a good name.

  20. On the contrary, PaulB, there is evidence that Carter rejects creationism.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/30/georgia.evolution/index.html

  21. @FRANKB, thanks, no surprise there

  22. @Paul Braterman — ICYMI, my tongue was firmly in my cheek. No mean-spirited sarcasm was intended.

    @FrankB, @Paul Braterman

    Jimmy Carter:

    “I don’t have any doubt in my own mind about God who created the entire universe.”

    @Paul Braterman

    Jimmy Carter:

    “When we go to the Bible we should keep in mind that the basic principles of the Bible are taught by God, but written down by human beings deprived of modern day knowledge. So there is some fallibility in the writings of the Bible. But the basic principles are applicable to my life and I don’t find any conflict among them.”

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/president-jimmy-carter-bible-book_n_1349570

    PS: @FrankB — I could not follow your CNN link.

  23. Techreseller

    Carter is a nuclear engineer after all. Engineers I know are a too high component of creationists. But a nuclear engineer? Those guys are SMART.

  24. @Techreseller, perhaps there is a misunderstanding here. I’m not sure that “nuclear engineer” is a correct description of Carter, whose degree was a Naval Academy BSc although he did serve in a nuclear submarine, but the point here is that while being a committed Christian, he is an eloquent defender of evolution as established science (see earlier comments)

  25. @Techreseller
    AIUI, Carter studied nuclear engineering in the US Naval Academy and was an officer on a nuclear powered submarine. I don’t think that he contributed anything in the design, construction or installation of nuclear power. That is, I doubt that he ever practiced nuclear engineering. Did he ever get certification as a professional engineer? My guess is that he can best described as a manager of a crew of nuclear technicians. Not a small accomplishment.