The Space Program Confirms the Bible

Everyone is aware that this week is the 50h anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing. Today we’ll bring you the reaction of Jason Lisle — the creationist astrophysicist. He used to work for ol’ Hambo’s Answers in Genesis, but he left there to go with the Institute for Creation Research. Now he’s on his own. He just posted this at his website: One Small Step. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

Fifty years ago, on this week, human beings walked on the surface of the moon. I have always considered this to be one of the greatest technological achievements of mankind. The ancients could have only imagined what it would be like to leave our terrestrial home. But that changed in July 1969 when men left the Earth and walked on another world. This feat was made possible by the combined efforts of our finest minds, strong determination, and of course, the Christian worldview.

Ah yes, the Christian worldview is what made it possible. Jason explains:

For roughly six thousand years [since creation week, presumably], humanity was confined to this terrestrial sphere. Many ancient pagan religions considered outer space to be the realm of the gods. The Greeks and Romans thought that the planets actually were gods, and we still refer to the planets by their Roman names. [Jason has a footnote here which says: The exception is the planet Uranus which is named after a Greek god.] For human beings to penetrate the divine realm was virtually unthinkable. However, Christian thinking eventually permeated and forever changed the science of astronomy.

Then he runs through the usual list of early scientists like Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newton, etc. We’ve dealt with lists like that before — see, e.g.: Did Science Originate with Creationists?

After that, Jason tells us about the history of the space program, which goes on for pages. You can click over there to read all that if you like. Then he really gets mystical:

Sending men to the moon has to be one of the greatest technological achievements of mankind. To think that human beings have travelled 240,000 miles into space and walked on another world boggles the mind. It is so extraordinary that some people have to ask, “did it really happen?” In one sense, I get it. The event is so amazing it is hard to believe. Then again, many of the events of the Bible are extraordinary. Can you believe that the entire Earth was once flooded with water? Can you believe that the entire universe was spoken into existence by God in six days? Can you accept that God Himself became a man, died in our place, and rose from the dead?

That’s one of the most amazing paragraphs we’ve ever encountered. And there’s more to come. Jason continues:

Like the moon landing, many of the events recorded in the Bible are so far outside our everyday experience that many people find them difficult to accept. I freely admit that it is extraordinary that God created the universe in six days, and it is extraordinary that men have walked on the moon. But an important consideration when we consider the possibility of extraordinary claims is this: “what is the alternative?” The only thing more unbelievable than these events is if they didn’t happen.

Think about it. If the universe is not the creation of God, then all of the complexity and patterns we see in nature are just accidents. Now that is truly absurd! If the Earth were not flooded with water, then why do we find water-deposited rock layers full of fossils covering the continents, and hundreds of flood legends from cultures all around the world? Are these things just an astonishing coincidence? That would be far more unbelievable than a worldwide flood.

Skipping a bit, we read on:

The moon landings are a triumph of Christian thinking. This isn’t to say that everyone involved in the moon program professed a saving faith in Christ. Some did, some did not. But all involved had to think in a Christian way in order to succeed. That is, they had to assume that the universe operated in a lawlike fashion as if upheld by the mind of God. The whimsical gods of pagan religions won’t do; they were inconsistent and would change their mind. And atheism gives no reason to expect any consistency in nature whatsoever. Everyone involved in the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs had to either knowingly or unwittingly rely upon God’s promise to uphold nature in a consistent fashion (Genesis 8:22).

It’s surprising that NASA doesn’t make everyone sign a statement of faith, like ol’ Hambo does. Another excerpt:

The biblical worldview and no other can justify our confidence in the science that made the moon landings possible. Hence, the success of such missions is actually a demonstration of the truth of the Bible.

Here’s Jason’s final paragraph:

Of course, the Apollo program confirmed some of the specific claims of the Bible as well. While many pagan religions accepted the celestial objects as gods, the Bible teaches that the luminaries are mere objects: inanimate creations of God and not divine (Genesis 1:14-19). This may be why God created them on day 4 rather than day 1. Furthermore, we now have photos of the Earth from space, confirming the biblical teaching that the Earth is round (e.g. Job 26:10, Isaiah 40:222). [No, The Earth Is Flat!] The famous Earthrise photo also shows that the Earth hangs upon nothing, just as the Bible teaches in Job 26:7. The Apollo program confirms what all science confirms: the Bible is true.

What can we say as an appropriate end to this post? Nothing coherent, really. And on the internet, no one can hear you scream.

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21 responses to “The Space Program Confirms the Bible

  1. Lisle has a solid point. The bibles (there are over 130 versions) are true in the same sense that Jack and the Beanstalk and pixies are true. If you wear sufficiently opaque blinders everything matches the bibles, no matter how contradictory.

  2. “… the Bible teaches that the luminaries are mere objects: inanimate creations of God …”

    Inanimate you say? So when Joshua commanded the sun and moon to stop moving for “about a day” how did they hear him? You can also easily find creationists on the intertubes who claim that scientists have confirmed that the sun and moon stopped for about a day just as Joshua commanded!

  3. Well, I don’t know about you folks, but Jason Lisle has certainly convinced me: the planets aren’t the Graeco-Roman gods of antiquity after all!

    Who knew?

  4. Job 38:7 the morning stars sang together
    Psalm 148:3 Praise him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light
    etc.

  5. Michael Fugate

    Jason’s God never changed its mind? This is the God in the Bible, no?
    If this God can suspend its laws any time, why would Christians assume a law-guided universe?
    Conservative Christians keep telling us that there are absolute morals, but never can quite tell us what they are. Did God allow slavery and then change its mind? What about child sacrifice? or animal sacrifice? Is burning flesh still pleasing? Did all those laws in Leviticus and Deuteronomy have nothing to do with either reality or morality?

  6. Jason Lisle assures us that

    The moon landings are a triumph of Christian thinking.

    Presumably that includes the thinking of the Nazi designer of the V2 Rocket, , Wernher von Braun, who went on to become the chief architect of NASA’s Saturn V rocket, and whose grave is marked with a quote dear to the heart of Rev David Rives, Psalm 19:1

    “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.”

  7. “the entire universe was spoken into existence by God in six days”
    Hey! Copyright infringement! That used to be my catchphrase! But I’ll forgive Jason – it’s good to read that he admits believing in magic. I wonder what incantation Jason’s god used? Probably not Expelliarmus.

    “Like the moon landing, many of the events recorded in the Bible are so far outside our everyday experience.”
    And the NASA didn’t even rely on spells! So it’s obvious that Katherine G Johnson, responsible for the calculation of the trajectory, of many Apollo’s is more admirable than Jason’s god. And I’m pretty sure she didn’t learn the necessary math from Jason’s favourite Holy Book.

    “And atheism gives no reason to expect any consistency in nature whatsoever.”
    Well, that one’s correct. However doesn’t give any reason to expect any inconsistency either, while Jason’s worldview entirely depends on them. Like human bodies walking on water, for instance. And Jason not admitting that this is an inconsistency.

    “The biblical worldview and no other can justify our confidence in the science that made the moon landings possible.”
    Actually Jason’s pseudobiblical worldview cannot justify such confidence at all – given his god’s mysterious ways the Apollo’s at any time could have been hit by meteorites coming from nothing, like all the water necessary for Jason’s Great Flood. And like all that water mysteriously has disappeared since then those meteorites could have as well.

    “the success of such missions is actually a demonstration of the truth of the Bible.”
    The same when such missions fail. Jason truly is an expert of that important creacrap law:

    – X is evidence for Jason’s god;
    – So is -X.

    Our dear SC complains: “And on the internet, no one can hear you scream.”
    But I do think I can hear you laugh – a bit maniaclly perhaps, but that’s very understandable after reading crap like Jason’s.

  8. Ken Phelps

    So let me see if I’ve got this straight: Space program, go to the moon, cameras on Mars, etc., etc. – God’s cool with that. Tower of Babel, however, and suddenly it’s OH MY SELF!!! A tower reaching to the heavens! Divine freakout!

    Did the heavens sort of drift farther out into space in the last few thousand years? Did god get a Klingon invisibility cloak for the Holy City in the sky? So many question for all the diligent creation scientists to study.

  9. @Mega thinks he has found a weak spot in Jason’s creacrap: “the thinking of the Nazi designer …..”
    Jason’s god works in mysterious ways. Von Braun used slaves to pioneer rocket science, this rocket science made the Space Program possible, the Space Program has enabled Jason to convince you that “the planets aren’t the Graeco-Roman gods of antiquity after all”. As a result those slaves who worked themselves to death at Peenemünde also bath in the glory of Jason’s god.
    Show some gratitude, will ya? That will comfort me while I’m looking for a bucket. Due to the thought that some bigot might actually take my argument seriously (Poe’s Law etc.) I badly need one.

  10. Jason asks: “Can you believe that the entire Earth was once flooded with water? Can you believe that the entire universe was spoken into existence by God in six days? Can you accept that God Himself became a man, died in our place, and rose from the dead?” Answers: No, No, and No. Actually, the third question has thee parts, so there should be five “No” answers.

    Jason also opines “The moon landings are a triumph of Christian thinking.” Well, they were a triumph of science and technology, without any need for the hypothesis of “Christian thinking”, to paraphrase Laplace.

  11. But hey, let me look at the bright side of Jason’s “analysis”! Right at this moment we can enjoy the fierce, tense and exciting competition in the Pyrenees, with a Frenchman, a Welshman and to quite a lesser extent a Dutchie involved. It’s going to be tough.
    But thanks to our dear SC we can watch a competition that’s even fiercer, tenser and more exciting! It lasts much, much longer than just three weeks! And we have a new leader! Of course I’m talking the neverending race downward in the bottomless cesspool of creacrap. For a long time Klincklekclapper and Ol’Hambo have been the main contenders. At the moment Jason has taken the lead. Will the other two be able to catch up? Brawny Brian is ambitious, but should try much harder.
    Only this nice blog will keep us informed of the latest developments.

  12. Eric Lipps

    Sending men to the moon has to be one of the greatest technological achievements of mankind. To think that human beings have travelled 240,000 miles into space and walked on another world boggles the mind. It is so extraordinary that some people have to ask, “did it really happen?” In one sense, I get it. The event is so amazing it is hard to believe. Then again, many of the events of the Bible are extraordinary. Can you believe that the entire Earth was once flooded with water? Can you believe that the entire universe was spoken into existence by God in six days? Can you accept that God Himself became a man, died in our place, and rose from the dead?

    There’s just one difference: we have actual, physical evidence that the moon landing happened. There are living people who were adults when it happened. Creationist claims to the contrary notwithstanding, there is no such evidence for any of the Biblical events cited. How, then, do creationists know they happened? Were they there?

    The Bible says these things happened, so that’s enough for creationists; they need only faith, not facts. But no human being was alive when the universe was created; we have no first-hand account of the supposed global Flood, no geological evidence that it occurred and a complete lack of any historical evidence (Egyptian society, for example, continued uninterrupted through the period in which the Flood supposedly occurred); and no evidence whatever that Jesus was a mortal incarnation of God, or that he rose from the dead (one rather imagines that the Romans, for example, would have taken note of the return of a man publicly executed for supposedly inciting rebellion against the Empire.)

  13. Of course, the Saturn rockets were all propelled forward by angel farts!

  14. paul collier

    Boy, did this kid’s mommy & daddy do a number on him.

  15. Derek Freyberg

    You have to wonder how the Chinese, Japanese, and Indian space programs managed to get anything done (like the recent Japanese mission that has flown a vehicle to land on an asteroid twice and pick up samples to bring home) without a creacrap backup.
    But that wouldn’t occur to Jason.

  16. Remember the officially atheistic Soviet Union.

  17. Right in Genesis 1, the sun and moon are supposed to “govern” the day and night, respectively. They also obey Joshua’s command in Joshua 10, and they fight alongside Yahweh in Habakkuk. The stars are the “host of heaven” who often sing Yahweh’s praise (see Psalms) and in Judges 5, they even fight for Israel. I would say the sun, moon, and stars are very much celestial deities in the Old Testament, even if people aren’t supposed to worship them.

  18. @DerekF and TomS: if we go back a bit further we can wonder how on Earth the Greeks could have developed math and how the Babylonian astronomers could have observed the sky without recognizing the Glory of Jason’s god. The latter are even mentioned in Jason’s favourite Holy Book (Matth 2:1-12).

    @TomS: as Bertrand Russell pointed out marxism is modeled after christianity, so we can apply a version of that important creacrap law here:

    – something good in the former SU, thank christianity;
    – something evil in the former SU, blame atheism.

  19. Jason failed to explain why the lunar lander and the Apollo spacecraft are the result of modern engineering and science rather than religious fundamentalism , which did not design a single item carried to the moon by Apollo 11. Nor does he explain why not a single scientific law or theory, proposed by Kepler, Copernicus, Galileo and the others he mentions contains any supernatural, magical or mysterious content.
    One can only imagine a creationist moon shot. A fake ark perhaps. Powered by mysterious unexplainable magical forces speeds through space ,while its occupants solemnly recite why are there still monkeys. Exciting stuff. Magical in fact.

  20. Mark Germano

    If Christianity’s introduction to the New World provides us any lessons, it is that we are fortunate the Moon was not populated when Christians arrived there.

  21. I suspect it does provide some lessons, MarkG. Compare christianity’s introduction to the Baltic lands.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades