Moon Landing Anniversary Free Fire Zone

Fifty years ago today, the Apollo 11 mission landed men on the Moon for the first time, and Neil Armstrong famously stepped onto the Moon’s surface and declared: “That’s one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind.”

The anniversary is dominating the news — rightfully so — and the only creationist activity has been a few pathetic attempts to give their “creation science” credit for the accomplishment.

Because there’s no creationist news out there, let’s have another Intellectual Free-Fire Zone. We’re open for the discussion of pretty much anything — science, politics, economics, or even astrology, theology, mythology, and sociology — as long as it’s tasteful and interesting. Banter, babble, bicker, bluster, blubber, blather, blab, blurt, burble, boast — say what you will. But avoid flame-wars and beware of the profanity filters.

We now throw open the comments to you, dear reader. Have at it!

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22 responses to “Moon Landing Anniversary Free Fire Zone

  1. Holding The Line In Florida

    Ah yes, remember it well. Irritates me we haven’t continued the journey. If anyone asked us where we would be in space fifty years later on that day, it certainly wouldn’t be where we are today, just talking about going back. 2001 A Space Odyssey would have been real in our opinion. Instead we have a song by The Master, Jimmy Buffett, “The Rocket Grandpa That Rode”. A truly sad commentary of our adventures in space.

  2. Remember we’ve had spacecraft visit Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, Vesta, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Ultima Thule, and various asteroids & comets. Very far from a sad commentary.

  3. The japanese mission to the asteroid passing through our solar system this past month has to be considered a significant milestone in space technological achievements IMHO. Intercepting and alighting on something that size , is incredible. And the Hubble was and is a success story.
    Going off on a complete tangent as usual, I’m loving the Louis Vuitton carbon fiber racing sailboats that literally fly over the race course on wings providing lift through the water while using space age synthetic sail plans computer designed for maximum lift to propel the boats over the water.
    Amazing stuff indeed. Haven’t seen any supernatural sailboat entires however. But, its likely that most creationists view sailing as a rather difficult to understand phenomena anyway so not surprised.
    That said a klinker discovered sailing entry would be interesting. Likely a 5 gallon metal tub, an Atari 1988 computer for navigation and a paddle.
    Perhaps ol Hambo can repurpose his fake ark and enter it in the competition.

  4. Michael Fugate

    Why is criticism of the US by conservative white males patriotic, but criticism by brown females unpatriotic? Why doesn’t “love it or leave it” apply to both and why is it assumed that the former are from here, but latter are not?

  5. Holding The Line In Florida

    @JSJ. Tru dat, we have done some impressive things. Our knowledge has increased dramatically, Cassini in particular is my favorite. However, I had to almost sneak in the live Mars landing in my science class because it was so low key. The excitement is gone. If we had regularly scheduled flights to the moon, a la 2001, that might be different. That is what I talking about and that what we were expecting way back in 1969. Maybe we kids were just too unrealistic back in the day.

  6. We could have an observatory on the far side of the Moon. With radio silence. And with reduced gravity for supporting a large mirror. Would a gravity wave detector, isolated from Earth noise, be feasible?

  7. @Michael Fugate
    We must be careful not to upset sensitive people by suggesting base motives, lest they spite us with their votes.

  8. Dave Luckett

    A Song Lyric

    I remember the joy, and the triumph. It was the year when I turned eighteen
    That a man spoke a word in the silence of a world words had never been,
    Fifty years gone and it seems now that silence no longer seems to call,
    So this is the last filksong, the very last filk of all.

    I thought I would see, if I lived long, lights in the dark where the fires showed
    The ships headed out for the darkness on our last and our longest road.
    Fifty years gone, and I know now, lights can go out and the darkness fall.
    So this is the last filksong, the very last filk of all.

    Fade into darkness, let the notes dwindle and die.
    Whatever happened to “Harbors” and “Hope”? Tell me, when did we kiss
    the dream good-bye?

    Oh, I know that it won’t be forever, and someday the miracles will return,
    And there will be lights in the darkness where only the far stars burn.
    But fifty years are too many, and I’ll never see those lights at all.
    So this is the last filksong, the very last filk of all.
    The very last filk of all.

  9. Big news from

    “Wetenschappers van de universiteit van Arizona (VS) hebben een speciale planeet ontdekt die ze de naam HD 131399Ab hebben toegekend ….. Door deze drie sterren is er …..”
    “Scientists of the University of Arizona (USA) have found a special planet and named it HD 131399Ab ….. Due to these three stars …..”

    No mention of the Wikipedia article.

    No mention that this discovery happened three years ago. This is relevant, because it’s typical for the lack of depth of this article. Only thus the author can conclude

    “Met andere woorden: deze planeet kan niet heel oud zijn. Planeten als HD 131399Ab zijn een probleem voor een naturalistische interpretatie van het heelal. Wel getuigen ze van de creativiteit van de Schepper.”
    “In other words: this planet cannot be very old [uh yes, see the Wikipedia article]. Planets like HD 131399Ab are a problem for a naturalistic interpretation of the Universe [Huh?}. But they do testify the creativity of the Creator.”

  10. But this is a good one! And entirely of Dutch origin, so I can be proud once again.

    The header asks the crucial question: “Made god evolve Homo Sapiens from a wanton ape?”
    The horror!

    “In mijn boek “De evolutietheorie ontkracht” citeer ik een evolutionistische wetenschapper (Dr. William Clemens) die zegt dat ….. indien een meteoriet de dinosauriërs liet uitsterven, dan was álle leven uitgestorven, en was de aarde nu een kale planeet zoals Mars of Mercurius.”
    “In my book ”Evolution theory invalidated” I quote an evolutionary scientist (Dr. William Clemens who says that ….. if a meteorite had caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, then áll life had gone extinct, and the Earth had been a bare planet like Mars or Mercurius.”

    Never heard of this Dr. Clemens; apparently he works at Berkeley, California. If you want to order “my book” you can do so here:

    The header “twee soorten evolutie” dances the micro macro mambo. However this is gold:

    “Er ontstaat in geen geval een nieuwe soort.”
    “No way a new species arises.”

    “De evolutietheorie van Darwin stelt echter dat deze (waargenomen) micro-evolutie binnen een soort kan leiden tot het ontstaan van totaal nieuwe soorten, over een zeer grote tijdspanne ….. werd niet waargenomen.”
    “Darwin’s evolution theory however postulates that this (observed) micro-evolution within a species can lead to totally new species, over a long time span ….. has not been observed.”

    Wow! This is backward even according to Ol’Hambo’s standards.

    One last remark – Dekee argues against evolution theory because of the very free sex life of bonobo’s and chimps, hence it’s impossible that humans have evolved from them. Excellent argument, I say.

  11. The Japanese are doing lots of good stuff these days — the Hayabusa comet rendezvous missions, their lunar missions, their Venus orbiter, and Himawari 8, which provides real-time high-resolution images of the entire earth from space.

    What I’m really interested in next, though, is future NASA missions to the Jovian moons.

  12. They won’t swear on the bible so what more proof do you need it was a hoax?

    But seriously, this is much better.

  13. MF, conservative white males a la leading Republicans are a salmagundi of privilege, ignorance, arrogance, warped Christianity, misogyny, manifest destiny, and so on.

  14. @Douglas E
    In the USA, an appeal to racism has long been the temptation for a political party.
    Racists do not make up a majrity, but they are a dependable block of supporters who will not care what else you have to say, and are enough to make a differerence in many elections.

  15. Bragging about grabbing pussies, 5 year birther campaign, etc.: Telling it like it is! Straight shooter! Free speech!

    Criticizing Trump: Send her back! Inappropriate speech!

  16. For those who take guidance from the Bible, may I suggest reading about leaders in Deuteronomy 17:13-40, Proverbs 29, 2 Peter 2.
    I know that there are those who take as a model an alien conquerer, as if we were a dependent people thankful for such mercies as he would deign to grant to grant his subjects. Alas.

  17. Michael Fugate

    Help yourself avoid dementia:
    Don’t smoke
    Exercise for at least 150 minutes of moderate activity per week or 75 minutes of vigorous activity per week
    Eat a healthy diet
    Drink moderately – <14 g/day for women and <28 g/day for men
    JAMA July 14, 2019

    A couple other things to think about:
    Avoid artificial sweeteners Stroke 2017
    Beware of anti-cholinergic drugs JAMA Internal Medicine June 24, 2019

  18. Michael Fugate

    Also if you are older – don’t vote for a republican governor and hope no one else does – unless you are really, really rich.

    Click to access w26081.pdf

  19. Here’s a new topic:
    “Evolutionary gene loss may help explain why only humans are prone to heart attacks
    “Loss of a gene 2 to 3 million years ago could be linked to why coronary events are so common in humans and so rare in other animals”–egl071719.php

  20. Michael Fugate

    TomS, that’s what Adam’s sin caused – no wonder all those guys lived to 500+.

  21. Michael Fugate

    A very comic interview on an apologetics site with someone who went to the DI’s Summer Seminar. They swallow all the DI tropes without question – it’s all about science and nothing about religion. So much gushing and so little thought.
    Also an interview with Mike Behe