A Collection of Clunkers from Ray Comfort

This one is a real treat! Everyone knows who Ray Comfort is. The former street preacher is best known for his starring role in Ray Comfort’s “Banana video”. Today he has a big article in the Christian Post, which describes itself as “the nation’s most comprehensive Christian news website.” Their headline is Scientific facts in the Bible, and they have a comments feature.

It’s one creationist clunker after another, virtually all of which we’ve discussed in the past. Not only that, but the article is long. There’s no way we can deal with much of it here. If you like, you can play with the thing for a week. Anyway, we’ll give you a few excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this].

After some mind-destroying initial paragraphs, he says:

Imagine that you are viewing a luxury liner moving through calm waters. To your amazement about a dozen people jump off the ship and cling to a lifeboat. You watch as the rest of the passengers stand on the ship and laugh at them. You can understand their reaction. What those few people did was foolish. It made no sense.

Suddenly, the ship hits an unseen iceberg and sinks, taking with it all who stayed on board. Now you see that those who seemed like fools were wise, but those who stayed on the ship and seemed to be wise were fools. We have in the Bible a command to jump off the luxury liner of this world. Before you laugh at stupid Christians, ask yourself if there is any proof that its claims are true. The following is compelling evidence that the Bible is no ordinary book.

The rest of Comfort’s article is the usual collection of phrases — some taken out of context — all of which are claimed to be statements confirmed by modern science. We’ve seen most of this stuff before. We’ll give you a sampling. For example:

Earth’s Free Float in Space: Job 26:7 (written 3,500 years ago): “He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing.”

The Bible proclaims that the earth freely floats in space. Some in ancient times thought that the earth sat on a large animal. We now know that the earth has a free float in space.

*Groan* Many other passages in the bible contradict that. For example:

Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble. (Job 9:6)

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? (Job 38:4)

The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. (Psalm 75:3)

Who knows what those people were thinking? Maybe they thought that the Earth is sitting on pillars, and the whole rickety assembly is resting on nothing. Anyway, let’s move on to another of Comfort’s clunkers:

The earth is round: Isaiah 40:22 (written 2,800 years ago): “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth.”

The Bible informs us that the earth is round. Though it once was commonly believed the earth was flat, it was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world.

*Groan* We discuss that mistranslated bible verse in The Earth Is Flat!, along with dozens of verses that say it’s flat. As for Columbus, like almost everyone in his day, he knew the earth is a sphere — but he didn’t realize how large it is. Aristotle (who died in 322 BC) correctly referred to the Earth’s shadow on the Moon as demonstrating that the Earth is a sphere. His views are mentioned in Wikipedia’s article on Spherical Earth. And Eratosthenes, who died around 195 BC, accurately calculated the Earth’s circumference. The work of both men was widely known long before the New Testament was written, but like the Old Testament, the New Testament is also a flat-Earth book.

Let’s see what other bible wonders Comfort has for us. He says:

The origin of life: Genesis 2:7: “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.”

While scientists in the 21st century admit they have “lots of theories, little science” about the origin of life, the Bible tells us clearly how life began, based on the word of the only One who was there at the beginning.

Very persuasive! Here’s another clunker:

Countless stars: Jeremiah 33:22 (written 2,500 years ago): “As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured…”

The Bible asserts there are countless stars (described here as the “host of heaven”). When this statement was recorded, no one knew how vast the stars were, as fewer than 1,100 were observable. That’s as many as Ptolemy was able to catalog in The Almagest. Now we know that there are countless billions of stars — an estimated 1025 [He probably means 1025] stars in the observable universe — and that they cannot be numbered.

Another bible triumph! Skipping an ark-load of equally impressive material, he says:

What Does All This Mean? Here is the incredible implication. If God did write the Bible through the pens of men (see 2 Timothy 3:16), then its terrible warning of Hell and incredible promise of Heaven are therefore true and need to be heeded.

Ooooooooooooh! Skipping over another ark-load, we arrive at the end.

Thank you for being open-minded enough to read this booklet. My motivation for writing it was solely a concern for your eternal salvation. I earnestly hope you have made peace with God.

And then there’s an editorial message:

This article was taken from the 28-page booklet “Scientific Facts in the Bible.” [Link omitted.]

We’re done with the thing, but as we said at the beginning, you can play with it all week long — if you want to. Go for it!

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8 responses to “A Collection of Clunkers from Ray Comfort

  1. “After some mind-destroying initial paragraphs ….”
    Still it’s almost a crime that you neglected Blue Ray’s “I hope you have looked at it [scientific statements in the Bible – FrankB] with a good deal of skepticism.” Such unintentional self-irony is highly promising!

    “it was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world.”
    Blue-Ray may have dropped his skepticism before he managed to use it even once, but I don’t. Columbus was actually inspired by wrong calculations by Greek-Roman scholars (if my memory serves me well mainly Ptolemaeus).

    “I earnestly hope you have made peace with God.”
    Blue-Ray should do this himself first. I seem to remember something about bearing false testimonies. Ignorance and stupidity are not offered as copouts.

  2. Michael Fugate

    I am sure Ray believes the “scientific” foreknowledge in the Qur’an as well – making Islam true.
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Qur%27anic_scientific_foreknowledge

  3. “We now know that the earth has a free float in space.”

    The Earth is not floating freely in space, it is continually falling towards and gravitationally bound to the sun. Poor Ray also “forgot” to point out that according to the idiotic biblical “end times prophecy” all of the stars will fall down to the ground, an obvious absurdity. And of course he imagines that a circle is a sphere in the same way that gawd designed a banana to fit your hand. Ray’s brain is apparently composed of brown banana mush since he has absolutely no requirement for and scrupulously avoids critical reasoning ability.
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Comfort

  4. Karl Goldsmith

    Ray seems confused, those that think the earth floats are those same people that think it.s flat and doesn;t move, while the sun and moon move above it.

  5. Stephen Kennedy

    Columbus actually knew the circumference of the Earth which had been accurately calculated in ancient times. However, in determining when he would reach East Asia he faced two difficult problems. Few people had actually travelled from Europe to East Asia and back and Marco Polo described his experiences but did not give a distance he had traveled so Columbus had only a vague idea of the size of the Eurasian land mass so could not tell how far he would have to go travelling West to get there.

    An even more serious problem was at that time there was no way of determining how far you had sailed in a given period of time since the position of the stars do not change when traveling East to West. And of course he did not know his route was blocked by two continents which stretched from the Arctic to the Antarctic.

    An over-estimate of the distance from Europe to Asia and an over-estimate of how far he had travelled combined with his assumption that it was open ocean going all the way from Western Europe to Asia makes it very understandable that when he reached the Americas he believed he had arrived in Asia.

  6. Columbus had a wrong estimate of the western distance to be sailed to reach Asia. He argued against the experts of the day, who had a distance more like what we now know, including the width of the Pacific Ocean and North America. Columbus argued from a text from the Catholic version of the Bible, which today’s Fundamentalists don’t accept.
    Another detail. The favorite proof text from Isaiah chapter 40, is from Deutero Isaiah, written a couple of centuries later. Coincidentally, it would be roughy contemporary with Pythagoras.

  7. @StephenK: “Columbus actually knew the circumference of the Earth …..”
    What’s your source? AfaIk Columbus estimated the circumference to be about 30 000 km, in which case he would have been correct. He was about 25% off.

    “his assumption that it was open ocean”
    That was consensus 500 years ago. The story of Leif Eriksson hadn’t reached Europe yet. The name of the guy or girl who discovered the Americas about 17 000 years ago probably will remain unknown forever.

  8. Michael Fugate

    Will there be a much longer companion guide “Scientific Facts not found in the Bible”?

    There isn’t a single shred of evidence these facts were obtained through divine revelation instead of empirical observation.