Discoveroids Release Their Greatest Podcast

The Discovery Institute was founded in 1990. They flopped around a bit until they found a good source of funding, and then they devoted themselves to the purpose set out in their manifesto — the Wedge Document, drafted in 1998. That’s a link to the Wikipedia article which describes it. You can read the actual document at the NCSE website: The Wedge Document. Listed among their “Twenty Year Goals” is: “To see design theory permeate our religious, cultural, moral and political life.” That was very ambitious, so they gave themselves twenty years to accomplish that goal.

The twenty years have passed — and then some. What do they have to show for all the millions they’ve spent, the books they’ve written, and the videos they’re always promoting? That’s right — a big, fat nothing. All of their goals have failed. We told their sad tale before — see Discovery Institute: How Much Longer?

For a perfect example of where they are today, take a look at the latest gem to appear at their creationist blog: More on How Chimps and Humans Differ: Anatomy and Behavior. It has no author’s by-line.

Take a good look at their title. That’s right — after all this time and all the millions they’ve burned through, what they’re telling us is that they ain’t no kin to no monkey. Hey — wanna hear the old song? Here it is at YouTube: I’m No Kin to the Monkey.

Now that you’re in the mood, here are some excerpts from the Discoveroids’ post, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

It seems obvious: humans and chimps, our presumed evolutionary cousins [Presumed!], differ markedly. But as Wesley Smith noted here yesterday [Link omitted.], it is not so obvious to the editors of Human Evolution.

Yeah, those crazy evolutionists think we’re closely related to chimps. Then the Discoveroids say:

On a classic episode of ID the Future [Ooooooooooooh! A Discoveroid podcast!], biologist Ann Gauger talks with host Sarah Chaffee about physiological, anatomical, cultural, and behavioral differences between humans and chimpanzees. Download the podcast or listen to it here. [Link omitted.]

Ooooooooooooh! Ann Gauger (a/k/a “Annie Green Screen”) is a “senior research scientist” at the Discoveroids’ Biologic Institute. She’s appearing together on one podcast with Sarah Chaffee, whom we call “Savvy Sarah.” Here’s her bio page at the Discoveroids’ website. This podcast has everything you’ve ever wanted, dear reader! The Discoveroids tell us:

Turning to the question of human origins from a shared ancestor, Dr. Gauger considers how long it would take to acquire the needed mutations by Darwinian mechanisms?

Ooooooooooooh! What’s the answer? Here it is, right at the end of the brief Discoveroid post:

Much, much longer than the available timeframe, she explains. [BWAHAHAHAHAHA!] This is Part 4 of a series. Find earlier episodes in the series here, here, and here. [Links omitted.]

That’s it, dear reader. And really, what else do you need to know? You ain’t no kin to no monkey. You’re a special creation of the intelligent designer — blessed be he!

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14 responses to “Discoveroids Release Their Greatest Podcast

  1. The Discoveroids consider

    humans and chimps, our presumed evolutionary cousins

    “Our”? Is this the Discoveroids’ inadvertant admission that they are a recent mutation from Homo sapiens?

    I ain’t no kin to no Discotooters!

  2. Michael Fugate

    I see the DI has a new shill – religious studies prof Robert Shedinger.
    His recent book “The Mystery of Evolutionary Mechanisms: Darwinian Biology’s Grand Narrative of Triumph and the Subversion of Religion” claims evolution is really just a religion with no science to support it, but ID on the other hand is spectacular science. Never ends.

  3. This is boring, but once again, what positive to they have to offer? What if their,,claim, that humans and chimps are not related by common descent, is true, how does one explain the similarities – and differences? Suppose that there is something supernatural involved, how does the supernatural make humans and chimps dissimilar or not? Suppose that design is involved, what happens to make the design be followed in making humans and/or chimps?
    Why and how would the supernatural have recourse to design?

    Wikipedia was founded in 2001 and look at what it has accomplished in less than 20 years.

  4. @TomS, yes that’s boring, but the “not enough time for evolution” non-argument is even more boring.

  5. Michael Fugate

    Wesley Smith essentialist. His argument: If humans are apes, then the demarcation between humans and other ape species is subjective. There can be no human rights unless there is an objective criteria for defining humanity that includes every human and excludes all other life.

    Why is this assertion true, beats me. One still must define “human life”. As the creationists keep telling us life comes from life – and the only conclusion is a continuous chain of life from the universal common ancestor until now. The distinction between one life and another has to be arbitrary. Reproduction and Evolution together as always.

  6. Karl Goldsmith

    “biologist Ann Gauger talks with host Sarah Chaffee about physiological, anatomical, cultural, and behavioral differences between humans and chimpanzees.” So not genetics then?

  7. The “much, much longer than the available timeframe” can be explained in two ways:
    We don’t have a shared ancestor (Stephen Meyer), or we do have one (Michael Behe). In the latter case we need some supernatural help.

  8. I wonder what they discuss under “cultural differences”?
    Humans get dressed in the morning. Chimps don’t go shopping. Humans interact on Facebook. Chimps are climbing trees …..

  9. hans435 ponders

    I wonder what they discuss under “cultural differences”?

    It’s a fair question. The leader of a band of chimps is the alpha male who makes the biggest, loudest, most dramatic display of ripping down branches, shrieking, and charging about.

    We humans don’t choose leaders even remotely like that…

  10. Holding The Line In Florida

    @megalonyx. “It’s a fair question. The leader of a band of chimps is the alpha male who makes the biggest, loudest, most dramatic display of ripping down branches, shrieking, and charging about. We humans don’t choose leaders…..”. Oh that is a good one!! “Shirley we don’t do that, and don’t call me Shirley!”

  11. chris schilling

    Wasn’t all that long ago that white people — good Christians, and true — were declaring “I ain’t no kin to no black people.”

    But yes, there are some significant differences that separate us from the chimps, I’ll grant you. For instance, chimps haven’t created religious institutions that systematically abused their juveniles, for decades on end; or allowed easy access to assault rifles so one chimp could slaughter his fellows en masse.

    So sure, chimps have got some way to go before they can boast of our accomplishments.

  12. @ChrisS is too charitable: “allowed easy access to assault rifles”
    Unfortunately Pan Troglodytes is as capable of warfare as Homo Sapiens.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

    Of course we won’t hear Savvy Sarah and Annie Green Screen discuss this disturbing similarity. They’ll rather discuss how smart the latter is to invent and produce such rifles and how that could not be the result of evolution.

  13. Michael Fugate

    I am curious, is the DI saying we don’t share common ancestry or are they saying we do, but God needed to intervene to provide the required mutations?

  14. Something in between.