Another No-News Weekend Free Fire Zone

We are really going through a bad time for our kind of news, and the creationist websites we visit are remarkably boring. You know what that means, don’t you?

That’s right. We’re declaring another Intellectual Free-Fire Zone. We’re open for the discussion of pretty much anything — science, politics, economics, or even astrology, theology, mythology, and sociology — as long as it’s tasteful and interesting. Banter, babble, bicker, bluster, blubber, blather, blab, blurt, burble, boast — say what you will. But avoid flame-wars and beware of the profanity filters.

The comments are open, dear reader. Have at it.

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14 responses to “Another No-News Weekend Free Fire Zone

  1. Last month Kent Hovind filed a sovereign citizen styled “motion to vacate” with the federal court as to his 2006 convictions, and the Court quickly responded advising Kent needed to let them know a good reason, if he had one, why the case should not be dismissed.

    Kent responded last week with a sovereign citizen styled objection that was entered into the docket record on December 5, 2019. Hopefully, the Court will also quickly dispose of the matter.

    Both documents were, reportedly, prepared by Kent’s sovereign citizen guru Paul John Hansen.

    You can read about that in my article at:

    http://kehvrlb.com/kent-hovinds-motion-to-vacate-11-5-2019

    That all follows Kent’s appearance on The Michael Saunders Show in October which was followed by my appearance thereon.

    I had a second interview with The Michael Saunders Show last week and that show is scheduled to be broadcast tomorrow.

    You can read about that at:

    http://kehvrlb.com/hovind-v-baty-the-voice-america-debate

    Kent refused to join me on the show.
    Kent’s Brady Byrum refused to join me on the show.
    Kent’s Paul John Hansen refused to join me on the show.

  2. Hovind has the strength that his faith gives him. It’s most impressive.

  3. Kent has pledged the rest of his life to filing frivolous papers with the feds, and he has finally actually done something productive as to that end; filed a frivolous motion and filed a frivolous objection to its proposed dismissal.

    We wait for the Court’s official notice of dismissal and what Kent might have in mind after that.

    Oh yeah, in his latest performance Kent took note of the situation and called on his minions to start harassing their elected officials about the matter as if they would get involved.

  4. Not sure if this small item was picked up on this blog last October; it is the sort of thing that never gets picked up by Hambo and the DI:
    Babies in the womb have lizard-like hand muscles

    But of more pressing concern, here in The Britain Formerly Known as Great, is the continuing political atavism that has already given us 3.5 years of the wrenching waste (of time, money, and tolerance) of Brexit and is about to condemn us to 5 more years of political malfeasance in the hands of a man nearly as mendacious and narcissistic as America’s own Agent Orange.

    Bojo’s pitch is that a vote for the Conservative & Unionist Party will “Get Brexit Done!” on 31 Jan 2020. But of course that only gets Brexit started on that date; what follows thereafter is years of trade ‘negotiations’ with the US and the EU, which the Tories promise can be accomplished in a few months rather than the 5+ years predicted by anyone who has ever been involved in such matters.

    So: we will see where we are this time next year. I predict: a struggling UK economy with no end in sight to finalising any trade deals or further instability as the union continues to unravel at the seams.

    I hope I am wrong. But if I am not, I hope the ardent Brexiteers who have unleashed this chaos upon us will finally find enough honesty to admit the errors of their narrow thinking. But honesty is not something they have displayed hitherto…

  5. Creationist degrees of comparison:

    https://logos.nl/niet-beeld-piramide-maar-een-spinnenweb-kan-het-evolutiedebat-lostrekken/

    “Conversation, dialogue, disagreement, discussion, evolutiondebate”

    Of course my dear compatriots forget to notice that it’s the creationists who have foam on their lips.
    The rest of the article is incomprehensible stuff about the need for a spiderweb instead of a pyramid to untangle that evolutiondebate.

    The denisovans do not prove evolution:

    https://logos.nl/mysterieuze-denisovamens-herrijst-niet-uit-dna/

    because its epigentic variation reprogramming of the DNA.

  6. Great Hand of Correction: 1st sentence, 3rd paragraph above: “with” should have been “will.” My atavistic neanderthal appendages have, on this occasion, let me down.

    Thank you for your gracious forbearance, O Mighty One!

    [Voice from above:] And so I stretched forth my mighty hand. Behold! All is well.

  7. Classification of fossils is hard if you start with evolution:

    https://logos.nl/tullymonster-eindelijk-ingedeeld/

    “One species gradually transforms in another one. But sometimes there is a fossil that doesn’t seem to fit anywhere.”
    Then Dutch creationist (and otherwise nobody) GJ van Heugten starts talking about

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullimonstrum

    It took 60 years to classify this unique little animal! But the important thing to remember is that similitude of characteristics doesn’t prove evolution. To which I happily add: nothing does.

  8. Some regulars like like to discuss Bible quotes; recently one JoelD even dared to postulate that creationist theology if false! Doubt no more, ye’all. Dutch YECer Jan van Meerten (who?) settles it.

    https://logos.nl/komt-de-creationistische-schriftvisie-uit-de-twintigste-eeuw/

    “De klassieke bijbeluitleg die mede het uitgangspunt vormt van de creationistische beweging is al eeuwenoud.”

    “Classical exegesis that also is the starting point of the creationist movement is centuries old.”
    Follows a long list of theologians, ending (or beginning – Van Meerten is working his way back) with Jehan Cauvin, the most important Protestant Reformer for The Netherlands (yup – everytime American freethinkers are annoyed by some calvinist they should thank the Dutch).
    So what can we infidels learn? Something that won’t surprise especially our dear SC at all. Cauvin was a bigot and a witch hunter, who founded a theocracy in Geneve in the 16th Century. Harking back to those good old days, that’s what Logos.nl wants.

  9. @FrankB, Scott Buchanan, another of my theistic friends defending science from biblical creationists, came up with this gem from Calvin; (I quote from his article at https://letterstocreationists.wordpress.com/2019/12/07/2019-letters-to-a-creationist-part-1/, most of which is about theological questions that will not interest many people here)

    In the 1500s and 1600s, the literal interpretation of these passages [the sun standing still in Joshua] was seen as an essential element of Christian belief. Here is what John Calvin in his sermon on 1 Corinthians 10-11 had to say about those monstrous, malicious, devil-possessed people who claim that the earth “shifts and turns”:

    We will see some who are so deranged, not only in religion but who in all things reveal their monstrous nature, that they will say that the sun does not move, and that it is the earth which shifts and turns. When we see such minds we must indeed confess that the devil possesses them, and that God sets them before us as mirrors, in order to keep us in his fear. So it is with all who argue out of pure malice, and who happily make a show of their imprudence.

  10. Also, I know this is not SC’s primary concern, but more evidence of the link between creationism and climate change denial:https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2019/12/04/should-we-panic-about-climate-get-answers/

  11. @PaulB: but now you don’t do justice to our dear SC. He has blogged about that very Ol’Hambo post here:

    https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2019/12/04/ken-hams-conference-on-climate-change/

    Thanks for the Cauvin quote. I had read it before, but also had forgotten about it. Many Dutch YECers are calvinists (but not the other way round), so it must be fun to hold it against them. Unfortunately there is not much chance, as they don’t allow comments on their several blogs.

  12. @Megalonyx
    I predict that one fearless leader (USA) will try his best to take advantage of a major trading partner (UK).

  13. Michael Fugate

    A few weeks ago, SC had a post on the Ohio education bill allowing religious expression on assignments.
    https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2019/11/15/creationist-legislation-in-ohio/
    Looked what popped up today about the sponsor:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/09/ohio-timothy-ginter-project-blitz