Creationist Wisdom #1,059: Judgment Looms

Today’s letter-to-the-editor (it’s actually a column) was found at the website of the Rockdale Citizen & Newton Citizen of Conyers, Georgia. It’s titled The God of Genesis is still the same today, and the newspaper has a comments feature — with no comments yet.

Unless the letter-writer is a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name — but today we have a preacher. It’s Tony Elder, described at the end as pastor of the Wesley Community Fellowship Church. Here are some excerpts from the rev’s letter, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

Recently we took a return trip to the Ark Encounter in northern Kentucky, this time going with our daughters and their families. We also visited the nearby Creation Museum for the first time. [Ooooooooooooh! Hambo’s Ark and Museum!] These venues vividly remind us of the foundational truths contained in the opening chapters of the book of Genesis.

The rev reminds us of those “foundational truths”:

This vast universe was created by a powerful God who declared all that He made to be good. However, that good creation was corrupted by sin. [Gasp!] Man chose to ignore God’s command, rebel against his Maker, and follow his own way. Not only did this result in humanity’s fall, but it led to many negative effects throughout the realm of nature. Eventually, man’s sin grew so bad that God brought judgment on the world in the form of a universal flood. Only Noah and his family, along with the gathered animals, were spared from the destruction by finding safety in the ark God had instructed Noah to build.

The rev really knows his stuff! Then he says:

Those familiar accounts aren’t just fanciful fables or stories of what has happened in the past. They don’t merely explain where we came from and give a historical record of those early events. They contain truths that are very relevant to where we are today. Sin is still corrupting the world. People are still rebelling against God and ignoring His Word. Divine judgment looms if we continue in our unrepentant ways.

Did you get that? Divine judgment looms! After that he tells us:

There are those who would question such concepts in light of the New Testament picture of a loving God. However, if you honestly examine the Bible, you find no contradictions between the God who brought the judgment of a flood and the God who sent His Son to be our Savior. He is the same God. He is still the God who judges sin while providing a way of escape for those who will receive it.

The Rev continues:

The sins catalogued in [Romans 1] sound as if they were written about our world today. It refers to people suppressing the truth, refusing to acknowledge God, becoming futile in their thinking, and allowing their hearts to be darkened. It describes people who “worship and serve the creature rather than the Creator” (v.25). It clearly condemns those who engage in any sexual relationships outside the natural relationships God intended between a man and woman in marriage (v.26-27). It goes on to describe the ungodly lives of those who have turned away from God – “being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of evil, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful” (v.29-31).

Does any of that describe the world we’re living in, dear reader? You know it does! Let’s read on:

We don’t have to be worried about a universal flood destroying the earth, but we do need to be concerned about facing God’s judgment.

Ooooooooooooh! What can we do? The rev tells us at the end of his letter:

We need to pray for our world to turn back to God before it’s too late. And we each need to make sure we’ve found refuge by faith in the ark of Jesus and the salvation He has provided for us.

The rev was too polite to mention it, but you also need to abandon your wicked Darwinist beliefs. They’re totally incompatible with The Truth. Think about it now — before it’s too late!

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19 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #1,059: Judgment Looms

  1. Michael Fugate

    Why weren’t “sins” defined at the start? Why weren’t the consequences of disobedience made clear to A & E?

    The end of Romans 1 is quite the rant. Paul or whoever was the author was quite worried about or afraid of sex and the “proper” purpose of sex. It is interesting that Genesis says “be fruitful and multiply”, but doesn’t delimit sexual activity. I am still convinced that the OT warnings about same sex activities were about using rape for dominance & submission – typical of male only communities. Aquinas channeling Aristotle in community afraid of women is not going to lead to enlightenment.

  2. Let me get this straight: Everyone in the world, save Noah and his family, were so wicked and sinful they deserved to die a horrible death. And of course all the world’s animals, except those brought aboard the ark, must have been equally deserving of a terrifying demise.

    Well, if that is the god of the bible, and the god who exists now, he has a lot to answer for. At least satan doesn’t pretend to be good (not that he exists, either)

  3. Michael Fugate

    These the same people who don’t believe they should be held accountable for the racism of their recent ancestors over slavery and refuse reparations. They also claim to be pro-life, but gleefully threaten people about death for loving others.

  4. They are so much pro-life that they advocate the death penalty.

  5. Michael Fugate

    Also how many of those “sins” in Romans 1 apply to their hero Trump?

  6. Charley Horse X

    Seems he knows Trump….“being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of evil, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful” ——The pastor and his fellow white supremacists and flat Earthers will vote for Trump, too.

  7. chris schilling

    If the god of the OT was such a judgmental SOB, is it any wonder his followers are, too? Asking someone to both fear and love a tyrant is mental torture. Nowadays, we call that an abusive relationship.

    Divine judgement: how the highly impressionable of this world try to scare the non-impressionable.

  8. @Michael Fugate
    Although they are not accountable for their recent ancestors, we all are accountable for our distant ancestor, Adam.

  9. Dave Luckett

    It was the Rev’s mindset that first undermined my religion. He says he reads the Bible – which is no doubt the case – and he finds no contradiction between a God “who judges sin while providing a way of escape for those who will receive it”.

    But that is not where the contradiction lies. The contradiction lies between a God who damns eternally and can only refrain from damning if a series of beliefs are entered into (and not necessarily even then), and one who loves His creation and who is merciful and just.

    Merely bare justice, and nothing more, requires that the punishment fit the crime. Mercy requires far more. And love requires still more again. But the Rev’s God has none of those. And the Rev worships this God, and thinks everyone should.

    I find myself entirely at a loss when I encounter that set of ideas. Where am I to start? How can I point out the obvious contradictions, when they are so blatantly obvious already? So much so that to ignore or deny them can only be the product of a mind completely closed to reason. Which is, of course, the case.

    Oddly enough, I have a regular experience that even allows me some empathy with the Rev. I have regular dental check-ups, and sometimes, being the hideous age I am, I have to have work done. I go to a dentist who has never hurt me, who is one of the most considerate and gentle men (a gentleman!) alive. But the night before any dental appointment, I can’t sleep, and every thought brings cold sweats, cramps, looseness in the bowels, ice in the backbone, shaking, crepuscular dread. To force myself to go is an act of pure will. I know what the reason is: some very highly unpleasant experiences in my childhood. I know that is not going to happen again. I know that there is no rational reason for the fear. It doesn’t matter.

    In one of my books, I referred to the part of the mind that doesn’t reason, doesn’t argue, doesn’t discuss. It only remembers, and what it remembers is that the darkness is ranged by hunters, fanged and clawed. It isn’t reasonable. It isn’t rational. You can’t use the tools of reason against it.

    My dentist phobia and the Rev’s religion are from that part of the mind. That part of the mind is common to everyone. It just throws up different fears. I wonder how much of – well, everything, really – is explained by that fact.

  10. @Dave Luckett
    What image comes to mind is an absolute monarch. Why do Christians still cling to the language of monarchy: Christ the King and such? I live in a republic, and the language of monarchy has, at best, a quaintness about it. Christ obtained his title by primogeniture, eh?

  11. But of course none of this is new. It is simply human nature to complain if for nothing else than for the complaining it self, only now, because of the multi-faceted array of electronic gadgetry that instantly televises through social media outlets the voices and features of any half-wit who thinks he or she has something important to say it has become as contagious as the Black Plague of centuries ago, and of the present. Only this time it isn’t rats carrying fleas that carried the virus that killed off a third of Europe’s population, but electricity carrying data carrying fatuity. Too bad that it entices now with a whore’s open arms with a shameless forbiddance in a house of ill repute the former than the latter.

  12. Michael Fugate

    Is the take home – lf I create it, I can destroy it”?

  13. Dave Luckett

    TomS: Well, Jesus clearly thought he was the son who was the heir. Parable of the wicked tenants applies. But he told others of their Heavenly Father, and instructed his followers to address God in prayer as Our Father, thus demonstrating that he thought they were children of God, too. So perhaps he was claiming to be the eldest son.

    So primogeniture, then, but one does find it outside royalty. It is still the case that landowners are reluctant to divide land, because it’s less efficient to work smaller holdings, so they practice impartible inheritance for the land, and provide for other heirs out of the moveables and other assets. I live in a monarchy, and I’m comfortable with the idea that the Crown will pass to the eldest offspring (male primogeniture now does not apply) on the passing of Her Majesty.

    But of course a Christian would answer that the language of monarchy is only a veneer anyway. Jesus was the perfect expiation for all sin because he was not only the son, but God the Son, the Word made flesh, God in his person, the only possible perfect sacrifice. Another transaction that adds to the level of unreality. The sins of the world could be redeemed only by the perfect sacrifice of God Himself.

    Er… why? What has the one to do with the other, sin with perfect sacrifice? Why is the sacrifice necessary? Why would forgiveness be impossible without it? Jesus said that God requires that we forgive one another without talk of sacrifice. Does God hold us to a higher morality than Himself, then, that we must forgive without expiatory sacrifice?

    I can’t make it out. I never could, once the questions occurred to me.

  14. chris schilling

    Whenever I burn the toast of a morning, I offer that up to God as a perfect sacrifice. It’s a way of expiating my “sin” for burning the toast in the first place.

    He seems to be happy enough with this ritual. I know I am.

  15. @TomS: “Why do Christians still cling to the language of monarchy?”
    Interesting question. I’d wish that King YHWH had as little power over his fans as the Dutch and Scandinavian kings over their citizens.

  16. The thing about a monarch is that there is no job description for it. One does not need a good report card, intellectually, physically, socially, whatever, at the kindergarten level to qualify for it. So why would one use the title “king” as an honorific?

  17. TomS: I don’t think anyone does, really. Monarchs who get a good or bad report card, as you put it, generally get an actual honorific or counter-honorific: “Good Queen Bess”; “William the Conqueror”; “John the Good”; “Edward the Hammer of the Scots”; “Aethelred the Redeless”; “Charles the Simple”; “Vlad the Impaler” and so on. “King” or “Queen” is just a job title.

    The same might be said of “God”.

    While monarch do not need a good report card, however, one thing is true of modern constitutional monarchies, which FrankB alluded to. It is that they understand that their function does not EVER include the exercise of actual power.

  18. One exception to the king keeping hands off in modern democracies: Spain’s king Juan Carlos invention in the military coup of 1981 to preserve democracy. And the British House of Lords still has a few hereditary, unelected peers who retain some power.

  19. And after my death and the chrisANAL gawd is real…he will be judged as the incompetent psychotic ahole that he is.