Even Atoms Are Intelligently Designed

You are certain to be overwhelmed by the latest post at the Discovery Institute’s creationist blog. It’s titled Message in Matter: Intelligent Design in the Atoms, and it was written by Klinghoffer. He’s a Discoveroid “senior fellow” (i.e., flaming, full-blown creationist), who eagerly functions as their journalistic slasher and poo flinger. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

Michael Denton’s new book, The Miracle of the Cell [Amazon link], considers the evidence for intelligent design from a new perspective and at a new level. [A new perspective?] As with his previous books, it’s a more fundamental view than that of all other ID literature.

Ooooooooooooh! It sounds fantastic! We’ve written about the book before, e.g.: If You Don’t See Design You’re an Idiot! As you know, Denton is a Discovery Institute “Senior Fellow,” so his books are worthy of your attention. Klinghoffer tells us what’s so special about this book. He says:

Before there can be the “Signature in the Cell” (the information in DNA, needed for the first life) or “Darwin’s Doubt” (the eruption of new life forms, animal body plans and the biological information to build them, in the Cambrian explosion), there must have been the finely tuned — the intelligently designed — atoms that make cellular life possible.

Ooooooooooooh! That is so profound! After that stunning revelation, Klinghoffer tells us:

We talked with Dr. Denton about the release of his book on a live international Zoom meeting with hosts Eric Anderson and Daniel Reeves. If you missed it, you can watch that now on YouTube: [It’s right there in the middle of Klinghoffer’s post.] In the conversation, Denton summarized this and the other monograph-length books in his Privileged Species [Link omitted!] series:

[Klinghoffer quotes Denton:] [There is] a series of major innovations that were absolutely essential on the route to man. And amazingly, each one of these great innovations, including the cell, is preceded by an extraordinary fitness in nature which permitted that innovation to be actualized in the history of life. You have a teleological sequence and you have teleology in the very essence of things to allow that sequence to progress. It’s very consistent with the notion that humans like us, beings with our physiology, were in the mind of God at the moment of creation. [Gasp!] Because this order we are talking about is in the very ground of being from the moment of creation itself. That’s the finger of God in creation.

Stunning, isn’t it? Everything was designed from the very beginning with us in mind! Klinghoffer explains:

In other words, this directionality to the evolution of the universe was foreseen — intended — from the Big Bang. Or rather, from before it, because the design was actualized right away. Since there was no nature and no time before the universe came into being, it follows that the design must be of that a transcendent mind, representing the “finger of God,” as Denton puts it.

He continues:

It goes without saying that the universe and our planet are “fit” for life. If they weren’t, we wouldn’t be here to notice it. So evolutionists will quickly tell you. What atheists and materialists can’t explain is why that fitness is so special, so unforgivingly precise and intricate, at every stage on the journey to us. Everything, starting with the first elements of the periodic table, must have been just so. There was no room for error. This fact, detailed in countless mainstream science textbooks, has a message for us.

Klinghoffer goes on for a few more paragraphs, but we’ve given you enough. If you aren’t impressed enough to get the book, then there’s no hope for you. Enjoy your eternity in the Lake of Fire!

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20 responses to “Even Atoms Are Intelligently Designed

  1. Mike Elzinga

    What atheists and materialists can’t explain is why that fitness is so special, so unforgivingly precise and intricate, at every stage on the journey to us. Everything, starting with the first elements of the periodic table, must have been just so. There was no room for error. This fact, detailed in countless mainstream science textbooks, has a message for us.

    I guess we are also too stupid to recognize the “fine-tuning” argument.

    We don’t know what kind of life would have evolved in other universes based on different combinations of the fundamental constants. In fact, we don’t even know what a “periodic table of elements” would be and what kinds of compounds of those elements would form.

    ID/creationists think that everything in evolution must end in us. I think i can guess that ID/creationists that evolved in those other universes would be making the same claims. Every universe would likely have its own version of an idiot.

  2. Michael Fugate

    The middle finger of God – more like – just ask Job.

  3. Michael Fugate

    On the Pre-Cambrian Cambrian boundary…
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02985-z

  4. Two points:
    1. If all of those basic things are designed so that life is possible, then there is no need for a supernatural agent to make life possible. Life is compatible with the laws of thermodynamics. The probability of life is rather high. There is no violation of a conservation law in the formation of life. Etc.
    2. All of the natural world is “intelligently designed”. So ID does not point out any properties of things which distinguish them from non-designed things. Even things which don’t exist, even impossible things, are ID. Flying carpets, travel faster than light, Penrose triangles, etc. all are ID.

  5. chris schilling

    [Verse1]
    And you may find yourself living above a Seattle gym
    And you may find yourself in front of a green screen
    And you may find yourself saying “hi” to a YEC
    And you may find yourself in a beautiful vacuum, with your vacuous friends
    And you may ask yourself, “Well…how did I get here?”

    [Chorus]
    Letting the days go by, even the rocks have design
    Letting the days go by, there are whales with lungs
    Into the blue again, after the money’s gone
    Once in a lifetime, there is peer review

    [Verse 2]
    And you may ask yourself, “How do I fling poo?”
    And you may ask yourself, “Where is that Casey Luskin?”
    And you may tell yourself, “I ain’t no kin to no monkey!”
    And you may tell yourself, “I ain’t no chance event!”

    [Refrain]
    Same as it ever was, same as it ever was…

    — apologies to Talking Heads

  6. Eddie Janssen

    Everything is finely tuned and intelligently designed.
    God did it
    Genesis will be the title of Denton’s next book
    The DI moves to Kentucky.
    Everyone is fired by Ken Ham.

    And they did not live happily ever after.

  7. Michael Fugate

    Thanks Chris.

  8. If atoms are designed for life, why haven’t we found good evidence of life everywhere in the universe, since, as far as we know, all the rest of the stuff in the universe is composed of the same atoms we are. Maybe Jesus hasn’t shown up again because he’s busy saving mythological souls in a galaxy far, far away.

  9. chris schilling

    Remain in light, Michael. Keep posting the great links, and fingers crossed, the Trump era is drawing to an end.

    If not, well, there’s always migration to Australia. We’ll take any disaffected, Bible-and-gun free Americans.

  10. Where is information instantiated in the DI/creationist universe? Is it in individual atoms, e.g., every hydrogen atom, like their mythical computer analogy, that contains one bit of information? If so, then does each hydrogen atom represent the same information since each isotope of a hydrogen atom is the same, like a color blue? Maybe deuterium contains 2 bits (green) and tritium 3 bits (red)? Thus every hydrogen isotope must contain the same information, same as Meyer’s computer code.

    Or is this coding information dependent on the atomic number and corresponding electron number, orbits, etc? Yet each identical atomic isotope must contain the exact information.

    Then again, maybe it’s the combination of atoms that make up information carriers, say, in the amino acids that make up the DNA in us. But if the info is the same in each type of atom, then combining atoms into amino acids will always yield the same sum of information in every instance of amino acid. Every instance of ADCG will always contain the same information, like GOTO, since ADCG will be identical in every case. Then how does new information arise in the DI/creationist world if every atom contains the same coded information?

  11. “What atheists and materialists can’t explain is why that fitness is so special, so unforgivingly precise and intricate, at every stage on the journey to us.”
    Would Kclunckerduncker take the effort to read some literature about it – like Herman Philipse’s God in the Age of Science – he would have known better. Or perhaps he does and he’s just lying. Anyhow, this is no science by any means and all apologetics.

    “this directionality to the evolution of the universe was foreseen”
    claim apologists with hindsight.

    “Enjoy your eternity in the Lake of Fire!”
    That’s still better than enjoying my eternity in the company of Kclinkclecklapper, Denton, Ol’Hambo etc.

    As MichaelF already suggests scientists have thrown teleology out of the window (except in church) about 200 – 250 years ago. That’s because it’s a dead end. We should praise the IDiots from Seattle for confirming this over and over again.

    @DavidK: good questions, but first we should ask: what does information actually mean according to IDiots? As it’s the same with design (as stressed over and over again by TomS and rightly so) I begin to suspect that the two in IDiot terminology are laregly the same. What’s almost certain is that information and design are nothing but buzzwords (on IDiocy).

  12. TomS hits the nail on the head:

    ID does not point out any properties of things which distinguish them from non-designed things.

    IOW, by the Discoveroid’s own logic: a cosmos in which everything was designed would be entirely indistinguishable from a cosmos in which nothing was designed.

    So much for Dembski’s ‘Design Inference’. What will the DI do with all those ‘Explanatory Filters’ stacked high in the warehouse?

  13. Klinghoffer whips it out:

    this directionality to the evolution of the universe was foreseen — intended — from the Big Bang. Or rather, from before it, because the design was actualized right away.

    This is wonderful news! That means the blueprint for the COVID-19 Coronavirus was baked-in from the Very Beginning–and with a cunning time-release mechanism to release it on the All-Loving Intelligent Designer’s schedule!

    And there I was thinking it was either a bio-weapon created by communists in a Wuhan lab, or else by Bill Gates as a means to micro-chip the whole of humanity via phoney nasal testing swabs, or maybe by the sinister EU Illuminati bent on Total World Domination–but lo! Klinghoffer has topped them all!

    Moreover, this proves that Trump is the Messiah. How else could he know God’s timetable to make COVID stop on November 4?

    O fabjous day! Calooh callay!

  14. @FramkB
    “Intensive and extensive properties” article in Wikipedia. Is the measure of the quantity dependent on how much or how many one has – like heat or momentum – or independent – like temperature or velocity? High school chemistry.

  15. Klinghoffer triumphantly places us at the pinnacle of creation>:

    It’s very consistent with the notion that humans like us, beings with our physiology, were in the mind of God at the moment of creation.

    IOW, the Intelligent Designer’s plan for bringing us about was the equivalent of someone wanting a toothpick and making it by planting the seed of a Sequoia redwood tree, carefully cultivating it for 3,000 years, felling it, and then whittling it down to a single toothpick with a butter knife.

  16. Michael Fugate

    The narcissism of the creationist…

  17. Better: sanding down the felled sequoia to a single toothpick.

  18. @TomS: “High school chemistry.”
    You are too demanding regarding creacrappers.

  19. As I’ve some time to burn I’ll provide a little clarification.
    In science (and remember, creacrappers insist that creacrap is science) terms need to have discriminatory power. So if some things are supposed to be Intelligently Designed (like say furniture) this means

    1. some things are designed by entities that belong to our natural reality; think of a hornet’s nest.
    2. some things are Unintelligently Designed, meaning that either the Grand Old Designer is imperfect or that there more supernatural entities.
    3. some things are not designed at all.

    It’s telling that the one single attempt to address this, Dumbsky’s filter, has never been tested by creationists. Let alone that they’ve tried to wring testable predictions out of it.

    To information applies the same.

    http://recursed.blogspot.com/2020/09/robert-marks-six-year-anniversary.html

    A creacrapper talking about research programs is about as trustworthy as a Feyenoord fan rooting for Ajax.

  20. @FrankB
    3. Some things are not designed at all.
    But …
    Christians and other theists believe that all things are created by God. That is up at the front in many ancient creeds.