Creationist Wisdom #1,067: Great Bible Science

Today’s letter-to-the-editor appears in the Muskogee Phoenix of Muskogee, Oklahoma. The letter is titled Bible and science, and the newspaper has a comments feature — but there aren’t any comments yet.

Because the writer isn’t a politician, preacher, or other public figure, we won’t embarrass or promote him by using his full name. His rather unusual first name is Cheparney. Excerpts from the letter will be enhanced with some bold font for emphasis and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]. Here we go!

In 1897, a physicist named JJ Thomson discovered the first subatomic particle. [Yeah, the electron!] The Bible in Hebrews 11:3 states that “the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.” (English Standard Version)

Wowie — subatomic particles were in the bible! Isn’t that amazing? What else does Cheparney have for us? He says:

Most physicists believe the universe is expanding. The prophets Jeremiah in 51:15 and Zeckariah in 12:1, both use the phrase “the Lord has stretched out in the heavens.” [Gasp!] The Bible over 2,000 years before our modern era, states that the universe is expanding.

Shocking — absolutely shocking! After that he tells us:

Scientists believe the universe is running down. The Bible says the earth and the heavens shall perish, but that there is a solution.

Ooooooooooooh! What’s the solution? Cheparney reveals:

Psalms 102:25-26: “Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands. They shall perish [Egad!], but thou shalt endure: Yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed.”

What does that mean? We’ll get a new universe, like a change of clothes? There’s only one more line to Cheparney’s letter, and here it is:

In Revelation 21:1, John said, ” And I saw a new heaven and a new earth.”

We have to agree with Cheparney about science in the bible. We’ve written about some other examples — see The Earth Is Flat! and The Earth Does Not Move!

That was a really great letter, Cheparney. Thanks!

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5 responses to “Creationist Wisdom #1,067: Great Bible Science

  1. The word of God was not visible, because it was spoken. God said “Let there be light”, etcetera. Spoken words are not visible, but the world was made by them. So says the Bible, and that’s all it says. It doesn’t say anything about atoms, let alone subatomic particles.

    God stretches out the heavens. The OT writers are thinking of the roof of a tent, an idea very familiar to them. Isaiah 40:22 makes the metaphor plain. God is not expanding the heavens, He is using them to cover and shelter the Earth. There is no implication of expansion.

    Of course the ancient writers believed that the world would end, some day. So it will, but not in the way they thought. Genesis 8:22 “As long as the Earth lasts, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, they will never cease”. But they will cease with the sun’s expansion in about 5 billion years, and until it is actually swallowed, the Earth will go on, lifeless as it began. And the ancients believed that the whole Universe would end when the Earth did, and that’s wrong, too. We can hope that our distant descendants will have other worlds to go to. Mind you, if they exist, those descendants will be more different from us than the Ediacaran biota were.

    The writer has apparently dimly grasped the concept of entropy. But the jury’s still out AIUI on the heat death of the Universe, and in any case he almost certainly wouldn’t be able to give a coherent account of entropy, anyway. Neither, of course, could the Bible writers. Come to that, neither could I, but I know it’s not what he thinks it is.

    Muslims will also tell you of the wondrous preknowledge of science in the Qu’ran. It’s about as true.

  2. Ah, the fine art of interpreting prophecies with hindsight.

  3. What do peoples who do not live in the temperate zones think of “seedtime and harvest, summer and winter, shall not cease”?
    Did anyone before the 20th century ever think of the expansion of the universe on the basis of the Bible? Could anyone conceive of that before the 19th century and non-Euclidean geometry? Did anyone advance geometry on the basis of the Bible? What help has the Bible been to anything mathematical, ever?

  4. chris schilling

    “The prophets Jeremiah…and Zeckariah [sic]…”

    Very reliable men (Cheparney couldn’t even get the latter’s name correct) who prophesied — among other things — the destruction of Egypt and its cities by Nebuchadnezzar, at God’s behest. (Still waiting…).

    “[T]he Lord has stretched out in the heavens [sic].”

    This can only be interpreted correctly to mean God is having a nice lie-down somewhere out in space, tired and clapped-out after His labours (which were considerable, true, but some time ago, now).

    Bible interpretation is fun!

  5. Theodore J Lawry

    I always liked: “In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun.“ Psalms 19-4 (New International version) Funny how those who claim the Bible predicts the discoveries of modern science never mention that one.