One of the All-Time Worst Discoveroid Posts

Once again we visit the creationist website of the Discovery Institute. Their latest is titled Listen: How Darwinian Materialism Poisoned Mainstream Ethics, and it has no author’s by-line. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us for emphasis, and occasional Curmudgeonly interjections that look [like this]:

A new ID the Future episode [Ooooooooooooh! A Discoveroid podcast!] again features Darwinian Racism [Link omitted!] author and historian Richard Weikart and radio host Hank Hanegraaff exploring the pernicious impact Charles Darwin and Darwinism have had on modern ethics.

Ah yes, Darwinian racism. We’ve posted numerous times in response to that outrageous claim — see, e.g.: Racism, Eugenics, and Darwin, and also Westie Says Darwinian Racism Is Everywhere. Okay, then they say:

Ideas laid out in Darwin’s The Origin of Species and The Descent of Man fueled scientific racism in the United States and Nazi Germany, Weikart says, and undergird the ideas of contemporary white nationalists, who tend to be virulently anti-Christian and pro-Darwin.

They’re still babbling about Darwin and the Nazis. See Discoveroids Still Claim Darwin Inspired Hitler, and then Discovery Institute Returns to Its Roots, and also Hitler, Darwin, and Churchill — One More Time.

This Discoveroid post is an amazingly huge pile of garbage — and it isn’t over yet. Next they tell us:

We can take some comfort from the fact that white nationalists are a fringe movement and that most evolutionists today are anti-racist [Thanks, guys!], but Weikart notes that Darwinian materialism has poisoned mainstream ethics in another way, by devaluing humans generally.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Now what have we done? The Discoveroids continue:

This is why someone as mainstream as Oxford biologist Richard Dawkins felt free to publicly encourage experimentation in ape-human hybrids, work that Dawkins hopes will undermine the idea that humans are anything special.

That’s very old stuff and we’re not going to bother with it. Let’s read on:

When the biblical idea that humans are made in the image of God [Huh?] is replaced with the idea that we are just a collocation of atoms spit out by a blind evolutionary process, all manner of evil against humans becomes far easier to justify.

What’s going on here? The Discoveroids have always pretended to be doing science, but now they sound like ol’ Hambo himself. Ah well, the moment passes, and now we come to the end:

Fortunately the scientific evidence has turned against evolutionary theory. [Hee hee!] To learn more about that, check out the short videos at Discovery Science, beginning with the series Science Uprising [Link omitted]. Download the podcast or listen to it here [Link omitted].

Maybe we’re just in a bad mood, but this one seems like it could be the worst Discoveroid post ever. What do you think, dear reader?

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13 responses to “One of the All-Time Worst Discoveroid Posts

  1. If only comments were allowed on their site! First, white nationalists are overwhelmingly Christian. Just take a look at the crazies in the GOP. Second, the Discoveroids shouldn’t be dissing them. After all, they support the same party as them.

  2. A case can be made that the scientific discoveries of the late 19th and early 20th century which had the most influence, by misapplication, were
    1) Mendel and genetics
    2) Koch and germ theory
    It should be published just how much a bad influence Robert Koch had. Hitler favorably mentioned Koch. And the research that Koch founded, although after his death, did participate in Naziism. I don’t know how much Koch’s racism had an influence in USA medical schools in the early 20th century.
    Whatever misapplication the germ theory of disease, that has no relevance to the soundness of the study of infectious disease today.

  3. “When the biblical idea that humans are made in the image of God”

    It’s embarrassingly ridiculous that God would be a giant human. I know there are all sorts of lame excuses for what image of God “really” means, but those who aren’t tripping over themselves to keep believin’ know exactly what the Bible means. God is a giant freaking human.

  4. Dave Luckett

    In fairness, richard, the same idea, that humans are sacrosanct because they are made in the image of God, works the same whether “image” means “physical likeness” (which is, as you say, ridiculous) or “reflection of God’s “spiritual” attributes” (which is the only possible reading, if you take any notice of Jesus at John 4:24).

    But I would like to ask, with Stargazer, whence comes this extraordinary idea that “white nationalists (who) tend to be virulently anti-Christian and pro-Darwin”? I can find no data to support that assertion. Rather, I find support for the opposed idea, that extreme right wing politics (which I take to be nationalist) is positively correlated with religious fundamentalism, which is in the US, overwhelmingly Christian: (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jopy.12665?af=R).

    So I’d have to say that this is yet another example of projection from the DI. It is, of course, also a stupid, vicious lie, which is what really causes my faint nausea when dealing with any of their output. Everything they say, everything they write, is a lie. Some of them are subtle, and many of them are stupid, but they’re all lies from master liars.

  5. “Ideas laid out in Darwin’s The Origin of Species and The Descent of Man fueled scientific racism in the United States…
    As opposed to the unscientific racism that allowed the slave trade long before Darwin’s birth? If one were to use the DI style of “reasoning”, the reality that the civil war that ended slavery started a scant 2 years after Origin was published would be proof positive that Darwin ended slavery.

  6. @Dave Luckett Indeed. Also Genesis 1:2 “And the Spirit of God mooed upon the face of the waters.”

  7. I really fail to see how a philosophy that teaches that every single human is an abject, despicable failure who only has value if God chooses, for some reason, to love them is an upgrade on, “You are precisely as worthwhile at your birth as literally every single other human who has ever existed, and it’s what you do with it that matters.”

  8. One should be careful of the fallacies of composition and division, and distinguish between what is true of the species (or population, etc) and what is true of the individual.
    Evolution is about changes in the group, not the individual. Evolution is not the science of reproduction and development. Don’t blame or credit Darwin for the discoveries about the origin of the individual.

  9. Techreseller

    SC Worst ever? Given the output of the Discovery Institute, that would be quite a badge of dishonor. Sort of trying to determine which vat of excrement stinks the worst. Not sure I want to know.

  10. “Hank Hanegraaff exploring the pernicious impact Charles Darwin and Darwinism have had on modern ethics.”

    I wonder why they specify “modern ethics”. It wouldn’t be because Darwin can’t go back in time and impact the crappy ethics from the other centuries too would it?

  11. “The Discoveroids have always pretended to be doing science, but now they sound like ol’ Hambo himself.”
    Hanegraaff became president of CRI in 1989.

  12. The hardcore creationists at Discovery have quietly taken over from the other hardcore creationists, who also happen to be themselves. Possibly the first self-coup d’état in history.

  13. Worst ever? I dunno – competition is fierce.

    >“Ideas laid out in Darwin’s The Origin of Species and The Descent of Man fueled scientific racism in the United States…”

    Oh yes, let’s just ignore ~1000 years of European anti-Semitism and blame it all on Darwin. This MIGHT qualify the post for worst ever if they hadn’t done the same thing in scores of previous posts.