Happy Thanksgiving 2022 from the Curmudgeon

Mars is red,
Uranus is blue,
Holiday Greetings
From the Curmudgeon to you

As we do every year, your Curmudgeon extends holiday greetings to all, including our many non-US readers who don’t celebrate Thanksgiving.

This was our original Thanksgiving thread from 2008, which is still worth reading: Of Plymouth Plantation: “Every Man for His Own Particular”.

As Americans learned in school (but who knows what they’re teaching now), Plymouth Colony occupies a special place in American history. Its original settlers arrived on the Mayflower, and the descendants of that legendary voyage still take pride in their heritage. Also, it was the Plymouth colony that observed the first Thanksgiving.

But it’s not generally known that the original settlers began by practicing bible communism, a peculiar kind of economic and social arrangement that they thought would bring the blessings of heaven upon them. It didn’t. Instead, it resulted in misery.

From that experience they learned a big lesson which is well described in William Bradford’s History of Plymouth Plantation. That’s what our Thanksgiving post from 2008 is all about. As Edmund Burke (1729 – 1797) said: “Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.”

Thanksgiving is traditionally a slow time for our kind of news news, so we’re declaring this post to be an Intellectual Free Fire Zone. We’re open for the discussion of pretty much anything — feel free to express yourselves about science, economics, politics, philosophy, etc. Banter, babble, bicker, bluster, blubber, blather, blab, blurt, burble, boast — say what you will. But avoid flame-wars and beware of the profanity filters.

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30 responses to “Happy Thanksgiving 2022 from the Curmudgeon

  1. Happy Thanksgiving to all! To the SC, misguided as usual, but still a most honorable host! Salute! As always, to a most enjoyable (and intelligent) group of people to follow inciteful and relevant posts concerning the state of the world today! Salute!

  2. Under the US American Constitution, everyone in the world is guaranteed the right to celebrate Thanksgiving, and then to have free exercise thereafter in case they ate too much.

  3. Security personnel at the creation museum
    An essay at
    rightingamerica.net

  4. DI (link above) channelled Metaxas *after* he had tweeted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Metaxas#Political_views “Trump will be inaugurated. For the high crimes of trying to throw a U.S. presidential election, many will go to jail” and told his followers not to get a Covid-19 vaccination

  5. The Doc and Doc Missus Doc are chillin’ with the offsprings in sunny New Mexico, Land of Enchantment, our first trip into Covid America. Easy to maintain your 6-mile distance here! My crystal ball tells me a plateful of turkey and a nap await.

    Happy Thursday to everyone!

  6. Faithful readers would all love to follow the current open-ended series running on the podcast Oh No Ross & Carrie, wherein co-host Ross Blocher pays a visit to the one and only Ark Encounter. The first episode may be found here.

  7. DocBill1351:
    It is currently too cold in New Mexico for covid to spread. And be careful on the roads, especially in the east. Also, don’t go to Las Cruces, the fossilized reefs that took millions of years to grow will test your faith.

    If you are in Albuquerque, make sure to check out the Nuclear Museum.

  8. Been to the Nukalar Museum. I gave it a glowing review.

    I am in Las Cruces at the base of the Organ Pipe Stone Things. Went up a slot canyon and saw dinosaur tracks. In fact, we trapped a descendent (rather snagged him out of the chiller at Sprouts) and ate him today!

    However, my faith is solid. I sprinkled myself liberally with Don Julio holy water from the Mission of Agave.

  9. The White Sands Missile Range Museum is just around the corner, about halfway between Las Cruces and White Sands National Monument:
    https://history.army.mil/museums/IMCOM/whiteSands/index.html

    They have a missile garden and a V2.

  10. Seattle times David Horsey, political cartoonist, has a good take on it with Thanksgiving meaning for today’s “celebration.”

    https://images.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/New-World-ONLINE-COLOR.jpg?d=1020×680

  11. A happy and salutary Thanksgiving yesterday to all Americans. I have often thought that we, too, should have a national day to give thanks, if only to one another and those who have gone before, for what we have – peace, fragile as it is; wealth beyond the dreams of Kings; and that we are, for most values of the word, free. We need a sort of civil Anzac Day to remember and to thank those who gave us these things.

    But this coming Sunday is the first of Advent. Christmas is just around the corner. There’s quite enough to do at this end of the year without another date in late November. And you do Halloween as well. It must be exhausting.

  12. Charles Darwin: Autographed document could fetch record price

    A piece of paper signed by Charles Darwin, defending his theory of evolution, goes on sale on Friday with Sotheby’s in New York.

    The item is likely to fetch over a million pounds – a world-record price for a Darwin manuscript.

  13. Dave Luckett suggests

    I have often thought that we, too, should have a national day to give thanks

    Alas, the UK is a nation of ingrates and therefore we have not imported Thanksgiving from the USA.

    Instead, we imported the American Black Friday Frenzy and give money to Amazon for consumer durables we neither want nor need because they are offered at entirely spurious ‘discounts’…

  14. …but there will be great jubilation and thanksgiving here if England prevails over the USA in tonight’s match at the World Cup!

  15. Update: great wailing and gnashing of teeth in Cardiff as Wales is defeated by Iran: 0-2.

    Disappointment over that result also apparent in London, where a Welsh victory would have been preferred–but only as long as the Men of Harlech had not defeated Iran by a greater margin than England’s victory over Iran on Monday, 6-2…

  16. No worries foreign people, the US Constitution stipulates that everyone in the universe celebrates Thanksgiving, including aliens, creationists, astronauts, and foreign people. You’re gonna celebrate it whether you like it or not so don’t worry.

  17. @Richard, does that include native Americans?

  18. @richard
    I have been told that the first US presidents, Washington and Adams, announced a national day of thanksgiving. But the next, Jefferson, did not, because it seemed too religious. The following presidents followed Jefferson’s non-observance until Lincoln reinstated a day of thanksgiving during the Civil War. And thereafter Thanksgiving Day was observed annually in the US. So I have been told.

  19. @Paul
    They were at the first one. 8^)

    But I saw a lot of First Nations folks buying Turkey et al in the stores…

  20. Every Thanksgiving (and every other day, for that matter) I thank the star that died to make the Fe in my haemoglobin.

  21. Indeed. As we heard from Joni Mitchell before we heard it from Carl Sagan; and my own thanks to both of them

  22. And isn’t it a proof of design, that a star died to produce the nuclei that made life possible?
    That is so much more than any intelligent design that we could imagine resorting to. So much more than design that it must be designed!

  23. I just realized how smoothly “one another” snuck/sneaked past the language police into common usage even though nobody knows what the hell it means. Good job “one another”.

  24. But that’s been around for over 400 years! John 13:34
    King James Version 34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

  25. Who are the most careful writers of Modern English? Those few we can point to with confidence that if they wrote it, we can follow them.
    Surely not Shakespeare, nor the King James Bible. Anyone from the last couple of centuries?

  26. @Paul Braterman In that case, good job sticking it out, “one another”. Usually when one reads the old timey-speak like Shakespeare and King James nobody can make any sense of it, except for if they see “one another”, even though it looks like it shouldn’t make any sense.

  27. A Chicago Manual of Style editor once explained it to me like this: “each other” is when you are speaking of two entities; “one another” is when you are speaking of more than two. It’s a bit like “taller of the two”, but “tallest of many”. Since the only permissible response to a copy editor is, “yes sir/ma’am”, I have never questioned the rule.

  28. @TomS Re: “Those few we can point to with confidence that if they wrote it, we can follow them.” I usually go by Taylor Swift lyrics.