And The Curmudgeon Said, Let There Be …

Let there be what? WHAT?

Let there be an Intellectual Free Fire Zone! Yes, dear reader, all your Curmudgeon needed to do was utter the words, and it was so! You want proof? Well, you’re looking at it.

Why did we do this? Because the Creationists have never been so boring. We’ve been through slow news days before, but nothing like today. We can’t even find a goofy letter-to-the editor. So if the creationists won’t entertain us, we’ll have to entertain ourselves.

Your rants about Trump are a bit predictable, but this is the place for them. Beyond that — and we hope one day that we will get beyond that — we’re open for the discussion of pretty much anything. The usual topics are science, politics, economics, whatever — as long as it’s tasteful and interesting. Banter, babble, bicker, bluster, blubber, blather, blab, blurt, burble, boast — say what you will. But avoid flame-wars and beware of the profanity filters.

The comments are open, dear reader. Have at it!

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24 responses to “And The Curmudgeon Said, Let There Be …

  1. “Your rants about Trump are a bit predictable, but this is the place for them.”

    I’ll take the bait.

    Trump identifies several media outlets as “fake.”

    Isn’t it curious that these “fake news” outlets suddenly became “fake” when they reported facts Trump doesn’t like?

    These are the same outlets operating during the Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama terms.

    Why were they not “fake” then?

    We have a narcissistic ignoramus man-child as president. It is embarrassing.

    I say this an independent who would have voted for a reasonable Republican candidate.

  2. If we excise the god-seeking section from human brains, can the remainder survive? Or does the ath belief replace the god-seeker in situ?

  3. What, no babble from the creationists? Maybe all the newly discovered exoplanets have started to worry them. The probability that this one was specially created by a sky fairy approaching zero.

  4. Trump shakes my faith in the theory of evolution. I think he is the product of a Malevolent Designer.

  5. On evolution and the stars

    We shall not go. The earth is ours, the sky
    Will be our children’s. No, we shall not go;
    They might. We shall not bid an aching slow
    Farewell to home. That might be their good-bye,
    And they will go. They must, or else they die
    Here, on this rock, as we must. Long ago,
    We left the fires behind, but took their glow.
    They’ll take the fires with them when they fly.

    Do we remember Africa, the trees,
    The leopards in the darkness that we met?
    But blood recalls the ancient moonlit seas,
    And so it shall for years uncounted yet.
    That blood is theirs. When Earth is memories,
    It will remind them. They shall not forget.

  6. Our Curmudgeon notes

    Your rants about Trump are a bit predictable

    Maybe so–but did anyone predict this: Witches cast ‘mass spell’ against Donald Trump

    Mind you, I think these witches are using fake oogity boogity

  7. Here’s an unpredictable Trump rant:

    Last year, when there were still 20 candidates I took a very detailed survey on the issues. Trump “won” by a landslide. But even then I then I thought he was too sleazy to ever get my vote, and I have since learned 100x more about him that turns my stomach. Never in my life have I heard of such a self-absorbed, spiteful, tantrum-throwing, addicted to instant gratification, con artist. He is a unique “kind,” as con artists are usually self-confident, and slick, and can’t afford to be so sloppy with words, and so obvious with the lies (the latest half-truth about the debt is a real whopper). Several commentaries noted how he is the most secular president ever (anyone can act religious “for show”), and yet he has conned most of the religious right! That would have shocked me 20 years ago but watching how the word games of anti-evolution activists impress people desperate for reassuring words, and especially uncritical of what “feels good,” makes it all clear.

    It’s especially informative to listen to conservatives, especially of the religious right, who have not fallen for his con. They tend to respect science and reason, and a few (e.g. George Will and Charles Krauthammer) are on record as accepting evolution and criticizing the anti-evolution movement.

    Please don’t let him and his radical, paranoid authoritarians divide this country any more than it already is! It has never been more urgent for pro-science-and reason conservatives (more of us than most people think) and pro-science-and-reason liberals (let’s not forget that many (most?) liberals hate science too) to set aside our differences and unite to really make America greater than ever.

  8. Maybe so–but did anyone predict this: Witches cast ‘mass spell’ against Donald Trump

    They’d better use a spell checker or it’s going to be a miss-spell.

  9. @Frank J: That is one of the better analyses I’ve seen of Trump. I tend to be a liberal politically, but the reason I’m appalled by this administration is the fact that almost all of them (and especially Trump) just seem to make things up. And they seem to be afraid of everything (“paranoid authoritarians” is a perfect description). As a former scientist, I like to see data to support claims, and “alternative facts” just don’t cut it.

  10. @Megalonyx: I read the article at the link you posted, and it quotes a statement from an evangelist preacher with which I agree: “Their bippity-boppity-boo isn’t more powerful than the name of Jesus!” Indeed, because all forms of oogity boogity are equivalent!

  11. @abeastwood
    Just make things up
    Isn’t that what the creationists do?
    There isn’t any scriptural basis for much of what they say. The whole of baraminology. The denial of evolution. Dinosaurs contemporaneous with humans. The Flood responsible for the Grand Canyon.
    Why bother to make a plausible story?
    Maybe it’s a bad idea to make a story which engages reason. Who can predict where people are going if they get their reason engaged with reality? Better to cut that off at the root.

  12. @ Dave Luckett: Bravo! Sharply insightful, beautifully crafted; what Frost meant by “a momentary stay against confusion.”

    I’m assuming its one of your own compositions; if not, who is the poet?

  13. No. A poor thing, but mine own.

  14. Trump is boring – lots of noise, zero content. An empty barrel, as we Dutch say. The people around them, they are interesting. They’re going to make important decisions, not The Donald. Bannon, Pence and Flynn are the men who matter. There may be more.

  15. @ mnbo: Flynn is already history.

    Hopefully, he has set a precedent…

  16. Charles Deetz ;)

    The Trump continual clown show has drawn my attention away from this blog and its battle against irrational thoughts on science. In a lot of ways, the issues are the same: delusion, cognitive dissonance, brain washing, and a general problem with facts. The scary thing I’m coming to realize is that Trumpism is becoming a permanent way of thinking, like creationism. You can’t fight it, you can’t be rational in discussing it, you can only ridicule it. The wholesale compartmentalizing of main-stream media as fake is horrid. Coming back to SC blog doesn’t give me any solace that the battle for rationality can win, even as we see creationist cornered and marginalilzed. My brain and heart and patriotism are all bleeding.

  17. And just to bring our boring Trump commentary back to the main concern of the Curmudgeon’s blog: turning to CNN I find a video bemoaning the press’ treatment of Mr Trump – comparing it to the way Nixon was treated in the Watergate era – and who is it by? None other than our friend Ben Stein.

    Curmy, politics makes strange bedfellows but I fear you’re sleeping with bedbugs.

  18. And Dave Luckett, thank you… that is a thing of beauty and eloquence.

  19. I’m getting old, Mega. I meant the guy who replace Flynn.

  20. skmarshall says: “Curmy, politics makes strange bedfellows but I fear you’re sleeping with bedbugs.”

    I am a disengaged observer.

  21. Boys and Girls. I’m sitting here watching DeVos articulate her vision for for america’s education system.
    She is telling CPAC about her childhood where her parents were factory owners. Now they have soft pitched an academic freedom question where she says “don’t shut up” .
    I see a creationism veiled threat there. NOW. She is being soft pitched a question about her experience with charter and voucher schools, which have been a DISASTER in her home state. Now CPAC is allowing her to make believe she’s not pitching private school businesses for her wealthy friends. I have to go retch now. Excuse me.

  22. Eric Lipps

    Re Trump: the only way commentary about Donald Trump fits here is metaphorically.

    To wit: he’s a mutant variant of a Republican. Odds are he’ll be weeded out by political selection: either he’ll be impeached (if, for example, something really ugly turns up about the Russian connection) or, whether he serves two terms (shudder) or not, he’ll leave no “descendants” in the form of more presidents like him.

  23. Or, he’s a forerunner of the new kind of politician.
    The Democrats will see that they will have to find their version to run in 2020, if not for the mid-term elections.