Discovery Institute: Science is Worthless

The Discoveroids — described in the Cast of Characters section of our Intro page — have just posted another anti-science rant by their latest star blogger, Denyse O’Leary. As we revealed in our last post about her inspiring work, The Copernican Principle, she’s a co-author of something titled The Spiritual Brain: A Neuroscientist’s Case for the Existence of the Soul (Amazon listing).

Denyse’s latest winner is But Surely We Can’t Conjure an Entire Advanced Extraterrestrial Civilization? It’s extremely bizarre, but that’s expected. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us and her links omitted:

Are doubts “anti-science”? Certainly, faith is urged on us as a duty. We read, “Finding planets outside our solar system that can sustain life should be made a top priority, say Australian astronomers,” because “Life, by managing its own environment, makes a planet habitable. It has produced adaptive features as a result of Darwinian evolution to live in colder and warmer environments.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Denyse claims that “faith is urged on us as a duty” by those nasty scientists. And only the Discoveroids can save us from the evils of the scientists’ faith. We’re off to a great start! It gets better:

In 1961, astronomer Frank Drake proposed the Drake Equation to estimate the probability of life on other planets, with a view to finding intelligent life and advanced civilizations. With few hard numbers to plug in, the user can assign preferred values to estimate the probabilities.

Oh, the horror — the Drake equation is a way to quantify speculation that there may be life out there. And if there were such life, it would mean that the intelligent designer — blessed be he! — doesn’t particularly favor his wondrous creations here on Earth. This blasphemy must be suppressed! Or at least, the deranged prophets of science must be exposed as fools. That’s a task Denyse thinks she’s good at. Let’s read on:

His colleague, astronomy popularizer Carl Sagan (1934-1996), who likewise believed that we live in a crowded universe, riffed off the Copernican Principle in his sci-fi bestseller and 1997 extraterrestrials movie, Contact.

Gasp — Sagan wrote a science fiction novel! How horrible! What other atrocities has science committed? Denyse has more:

Absent evidence, speculations clash. Paleontologist Simon Conway Morris argues that aliens, if they exist, must be a lot like us. On the contrary, say others, they needn’t be like us at all. In any event, we may not be able to communicate with them. Fred Hoyle advanced the idea, in a novel, that they could be a black cloud of gas, floating through space. The Copernican principle rises above all such trivia by responding: They just must be out there.

In her obsession to show how foolish scientists are, Denyse cites another science fiction novel, this time from the 1950s — Fred Hoyle’s The Black Cloud. She goes on for a few more paragraphs with other “evidence,” and then says:

In this wilderness of unknowns, how do we decide what’s modern science and what’s modern folklore? Does ET vs. Bigfoot come down merely to the number and type of letters after one’s name?

We’re not at all certain what’s going on here, but it clearly demonstrates that the Discoveroids can’t distinguish science from fiction — or to be more specific, reality from fantasy. Denyse finishes her brilliant article like this:

In other science news —

Hold on a minute. A rant including references to two science fiction novels is “science news”? To the Discoveroids, so it would seem. Now let’s start that paragraph again:

In other science news, the Mars Rover still hasn’t detected methane (a possible indicator of life). …. Life is found everywhere we look on Earth but so far nowhere else. Meanwhile, the University of Georgia offers a course, “Extraterrestrial Intelligence: Where Are They,” to equip the student to “act as a main intellectual figure in any future ET dialogues they may have in the future.”

As always, the will to believe drives conjury. What happens when doubt sets in? Ah now, that would be telling …

[*Curmudgeon slowly shakes his head*] Okay, we’ve finished reading the thing, and we’re left wondering: What did she say?

We don’t even have a clue as to what Denyse was trying to say. It’s clear that her faith in the intelligent designer is fanatically opposed to life anywhere but on Earth. It’s also clear that she has utter contempt for scientists. We already knew that, otherwise the Discoveroids wouldn’t publish her writings. But as for her methodology (if that’s what it can be called), it seems to be — shall we say — somewhat deficient.

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30 responses to “Discovery Institute: Science is Worthless

  1. What did she hope to say in that post!

  2. Any reason why Evolution News doesn’t take comments? I guess pseudo-scientists aren’t into peer review!

  3. Alex Shuffell

    The only thing I understood from that piece is that Denyse O’Leary can’t tell Science Fiction from actual scientific work. With a Discoveroid mind, thinking that the universe is just our solar system with the sun at the centre, it must be very confusing to imagine that those little lights out there could hold planets like Earth. Those stars are nowhere near as big as our Sun, you can see that just by looking at them.
    I do like her choice of Sci-fi novels, Contact and The Black Cloud were very good.

  4. Vintage stuff! That’s why she’s known as Dense.

    I still can’t believe the Disco Tute is featuring her breathtaking inanity on their blog. Desperate times?

  5. With their recent promotion of Dense O’Leary, the Discoveroids are sinking ever deeper into the mire . . .

    The loopy granny from Toronto has only a tenuous grasp on reality, and I guess that fits the Discoveroid’s paradigm just fine.

  6. Well, such things are fascinating from a SF perspective. Not new or very sophisticated, but still.
    I’ve been reading (listening) thru the back catalog of audiobooks. “Mote in God’s Eye” e.g. where a Theologician has the crucial role of checking for a soul. Of course that’s pretty close to a reenactment of those gold old “discussions” about the humanity of the wild men.
    Hasn’t the (actual) Vatican some policy on extraterrestrial life? Around 1900 this was kinda an issue after all.

  7. Btw, Mote is one of those books where the (new) Vatican is a major player. Wonder why O’Leary didn’t discuss one of the (fictional) books dealing with man and god…

  8. So at what point does something a Discoveroid says or does actually embarrass other Discoveroids?

  9. Dear Denyse is an absolute treasure! Here’s some background on her at RationalWiki, and among her little coterie of blogs, there is the curious Colliding Universes, for which the last entry was

    Because I am writing a book and working for a living, I have regretfully decided that the only time management solution is to put this blog on hold until November 30, 2011.

    Two years on, still on hold. Mind you, her thinking is stuck two centuries out of date…

  10. anevilmeme asks

    So at what point does something a Discoveroid says or does actually embarrass other Discoveroids?

    A point known as The Vanishing Point. Discoveroids have no shame and are thus incapable of embarrassment.

    Oddly, I feel embarrassed that such folks emerge from our common human gene pool. It does not at all bother me to share a common ancestor with gorillas and chimpanzees, but I find it shameful to be even more closely related to the Discoveroids.

  11. How’s this for a conspiracy theory. The Discoveroids and their ilk are secretly manipulated by an alien race to dumb down the humans so we won’t go out into the Cosmos and compete with them in the future. Hey, it makes just as much sense as the stuff they are pushing.

  12. Fred Hoyle was a believer of intelligent design, or at least he made statements in favor of it from time to time. Denyse should know better than to pick on Fred. He’s probably the smartest scientist to ever utter a pro-ID thought. (of course, like Wallace, he had his wacky side too)

    Is it possible that these little epistles get posted with any editorial review at all?

  13. In 1961, astronomer Frank Drake proposed the Drake Equation to estimate the probability of life on other planets, with a view to finding intelligent life and advanced civilizations.”

    Exactly. It was only an estimate, nothing more, a starting point for the exploration of other possible planets, etc. Given that over 1000 planets have so far been discovered, and further estimates that there are millions more to be found, perhaps the equation in question needs an update. Then again, we know the dishonesty institute’s estimate is zero to begin with, in fact, doesn’t the finding of even 1000 planets begin to negate our friend Guillermo Gonzalez’s work on finding new planets in the Goldilocks Zone?

  14. Charles Deetz ;)

    One of the few times I couldn’t believe our SC summary and selective quotes, and needed to click thru to make sure her article was as incoherent as it sounded. Which it was, of course, with the added skill of not sounding like a nutter or a conspiracy theorist. And I had thought the DI was vapid already. Sheesh.

  15. I wonder if the Discoveroids read this column.

  16. dorianmattar says: “I wonder if the Discoveroids read this column.”

    They’ve only mentioned us once, but I’m sure they must read it. What are they supposed to say — they don’t like me?

  17. I just wonder how their feeble minds must feel when being countered with logic… lol

  18. Charles Deetz ;)

    @dorianmattar Logic and facts don’t sink in at all, the cognitive dissonance is too strong. They don’t like getting mocked, they have no idea why they deserve it, but it is the only defense that works.

    Personally, I am not a bully, but this is one of the few times in my day when I get to call stupid out for what it is, stupid. And I don’t really care if they hear me or not.

  19. I know the feeling. I’ve tried to talk some sense unto my sisters, but it’s impossible. They believe god is on their side and there is nothing I can do about it.

    If things go good, god did it, if things go bad, that’s what god wants…

    There is no winning.

  20. I also wonder why Denyse doesn’t refer to Gonzalez as she wrote about him back in 2007: http://www.salvomag.com/new/articles/salvo5/5oleary.php
    I guess his argument goes beyond the Goldilock galactic habitable zone argument by claiming

    “our planet is exquisitely fit not only to support life, but also to give us the best view of the universe, as if Earth were designed both for life and for scientific discovery”
    (quoted from the blurb of his book at Amazon)

    I.e., since certain limited if not unique parts of the universe are designed to allow observation the fact that mankind can observe the universe means that it is designed.
    Maybe even Denyse realized that Gonzalez’ reasoning is circular.

  21. “They’ve only mentioned us once, but I’m sure they must read it.”

    I hope they do; they might learn something. Not science, mind you, because that would be completely beyond their capabilities. But they might learn how ridiculous their cargo cult is, and how cowardly they are for hiding behind the protective skirts of the no comment policy at their little blog. Those would be good things for them to learn.

  22. Of course there is Intelligent Design. How else could we have an earth so uniquely suited to life?

    On the other hand, if there are zillions of planets equally suited tio life, who can doubt such stunning proof that the universe was designed intelligently?

  23. Paul Braterman says: “On the other hand, if there are zillions of planets equally suited tio life, who can doubt such stunning proof that the universe was designed intelligently?”

    Zillions of proofs!

  24. The proof is in the pudding… Science has estimated the amount of habitable planets based on statistics, not based on an intelligent designer.

    The entire structure of the universe is an observable outcome of nothing more than the physical factors we call laws and an immense amount of TIME.

    The same equations would produce and ENTIRELY different outcome or universe than what we observe if it was the creation of an intelligent designer with unlimited powers.

  25. Personally, I don’t think our planet seems all that well designed for life. How many mass extinctions has life experienced? Since becoming multicellular?

    The earth seems to be in a cosmic shooting gallery, and contributes to its own sanitization via occasional episodes of wide-spread volcanism, glaciation and other disasters. Either it’s not designed, or the designer has a macabre sense of humor.

  26. If I had designed the Earth I had made very sure that either Homo Sapiens was capable of drinking sea water or that Earth had contained a lot more drinkable fresh water. That would have save California some trouble, wouldn’t it?

  27. Ceteris Paribus

    This is merely speculation, but Denyse O’Leary may be another of those poor souls who were traumatized by the retirement of late-night radio host Art Bell some years back.

    Some shock treatment might work a cure. I suggest she take a couple of weeks away from the cultural wasteland of Canada, and head down to Texas and learn the rest of the lyrics to the “chew tabacca, chew tabbaca, chew tabacca, SPIT” song.

  28. Rob Ford was asked whether he has ever read Denyse O’Leary’s column.

    Ford: “Have I ever read Denyse O’Leary’s column?… Yes. But only when I was in a drunken stupor.’

    Outraged, Toronto city council members demanded that Ford resign.

    “This is aboot integrity. This is aboot professionalism. We don’t mind a mayor who gets drunk and smokes crack and tells the press he likes cunnilingus. But reading Denyse O’Leary’s columns– now that’s sick.”

    — Diogenes