Herman Cummings Challenges the Whole World!

We know you remember Herman Cummings. He’s the author (using the pen-name “Ephriam”) of Moses Didn’t Write About Creation!

Our last post about him was Herman Cummings, Genesis Genius, Tells All! Before that we posted Herman Cummings, Genesis Genius — Again!, describing how Herman would rent lecture halls, advertise, and distribute fliers, but virtually no one would come to his lectures. Yet he perseveres!

As before, Herman’s latest appears at a website called iNewp — the People’s Press. We still know nothing about them, but they’re willing to publish Herman’s articles and for that the world should be grateful. To our surprise and delight, Herman has two articles appearing at that venerable website. The first was a few days ago: The Hypocrisy of “Young Earth” Creationism.

That one is the more important of Herman’s two articles, because if you scroll down once you get there, you’ll find Herman’s challenge. Here are some excerpts, with bold font added by us:

This letter is written to the following “Young Earth” (Creation Science, Flood Geology) creationism groups: Young Earth Organization, Answers in Genesis, Institute of Creation Research, Creation Research Society, Creation Ministries International, Creation Studies Institute, and the Kolbe Mission Center. These groups will be referred to as “YEC”.

Being “copied in” is the National Center for Science Education (NCSE), whom I hope to publicly confront with the truth of our origins. I am serving the NCSE notice that I hope/plan to face off against them in a public examination of the geologic and fossil record data. They want to maintain the monopoly of the evolution theory being taught in public schools, which actually supports the tenets of Atheism. That is unconstitutional, and has poisoned the minds of mankind.

Herman doesn’t do things in a small way. Let’s read on:

But first things first. All of the above “young Earth” creationist groups are being given the opportunity to band together with me in this venture, by accepting and propagating the truth of Genesis, rather than the failed and foolish doctrines they now adhere to. Genesis is not a joke book, as these organizations present it to be. Genesis is a book of history, and advanced math & science, being literally true.

All those YEC organizations were given a fair opportunity to accept the Cummings challenge. Herman’s letter continues:

In seven days, starting from March 2nd 2011, this letter will be made public. The YEC groups have until then to resolve the issues that are later presented in this epistle. I am presently under the impression that most all “young Earth” advocates are hypocrites, and will refuse to accept the truth of scripture.

[We’re skipping Herman’s specific factual questions to the YEC organizations, which you’ll want to read for yourself.]

Either band together, and accept the truth of Genesis, or be exposed as hypocrites, which deny both the complete literal truth of God’s Word,and the discovered reality of our natural world. Be advised that those that continue to be in denial, after exposure to the truth, are generally considered insane.

They had their warning. So what happened? At the beginning of his article in iNewp — the People’s Press, Herman says this:

They didn’t respond. For years, such creationist groups have been running away from reality, teaching their failed and foolish doctrines, misrepresenting the Word of God. I urge everyone to stop giving donations to these “creationist clowns”, that refuse to both learn and teach the truth of Genesis. Every time I confront them with correct “literal interpretation” of scripture, they either redefine the scripture’s meaning, or run away.

[…]

In case you didn’t know, the correct opposing view to the evolution theory is the “Observations of Moses”, not the falsehoods of (young Earth) Creationism. For seventeen years, these hypocrites have resisted even learning what the truth is, let alone admitting to their ignorance of scripture.

But wait — there’s more! A few days later Herman posted this at the same website: The Infidelity of “Old Earth” Creationism. Yes, you guessed it. Herman also sent a challenge to Old-earth creationists (OEC). He provides what he says is a link to that letter, but his link takes us back to the YEC challenge so we haven’t seen the OEC challenge. Anyway, here’s some of what he says about the reaction to it:

Only one group responded (along with the NCSE). For many years, both old and young Earth creationist groups have been either running away from reality, or denying the literal truth of God’s Word. Infidelity, within this article, is defined as being unfaithful, disloyal, and being a traitor to the literal meaning of the Genesis text. God’s Word is not allegorical, and contains no metaphors or myths.

The National Center for Science Education responded? Amazing! And another group too? We continue:

It is appalling that “old Earth” creationist groups will compromise with the (false) conclusions of the world of science, defaming the Scriptures. Yes, the Earth and universe are billions of years old, but there was no Big Bang, nor did life on Earth develop via evolution. The correct reading of Genesis explains both the fossil and geologic records from the ancient past.

It must be so frustrating for Herman to be the only human alive who knows The Truth. Here’s more:

The NCSE responded, saying that they disagreed with “my interpretation” of Genesis. I told them that that was unlikely, because they didn’t know what “my interpretation” was. I asked them to tell me what it was. I guess that they are still trying to uncover what it is, because they never wrote back.

That’s all there is, and we’re not told who else responded besides the NCSE. Perhaps Herman will drop in, as he usually does, to provide us with more information.

Copyright © 2011. The Sensuous Curmudgeon. All rights reserved.

add to del.icio.usAdd to Blinkslistadd to furlDigg itadd to ma.gnoliaStumble It!add to simpyseed the vineTailRankpost to facebook

. AddThis Social Bookmark Button . Permalink for this article

27 responses to “Herman Cummings Challenges the Whole World!

  1. It is always fascinating to me, just how insane a person can get and still remain free of jail and mental institutions.

  2. You didn’t mention that one of the comments over there contains an explanation of how we were created by a race of advanced reptilians and are the genetic ancestors of many. It was…fascinating.

  3. Ellie says:

    You didn’t mention that one of the comments over there contains an explanation of how we were created by a race of advanced reptilians …

    I didn’t realize they had comments. Yes, that’s a good one. (Ellie is referring to comments to the first of Herman’s articles.) Those aliens are said to come from “the constellation of Andromeda.” How does anyone come from a constellation?

  4. The next time someone suggests that we “teach the controversy”, be sure to remember this, which deserves as much consideration as YEC.

  5. Gabriel Hanna

    just how insane a person can get and still remain free of jail and mental institutions.

    Because legal insanity has more to do with the ability to distinguish right from wrong, and predict the consequences of one’s actions, then it does with ideas about history and science that are out of the mainstream.

    I kind of feel sorry for this guy, he’s continually getting his nose rubbed in his irrelevance, which for him must be intolerable.

  6. ” … those that continue to be in denial, after exposure to the truth, are generally considered insane.” Or, as Richard Dawkins says, delusional. Either way, he took the words right out of my keyboard.

  7. Herman would get more readers if he called his stuff satire.

    It’s funny enough.

  8. Gumlegs! Where have you been?

  9. I won’t punish the one “old Earth” group that responded. Some had only
    a form to submit, and not a visible address.

    Who said anything about Aliens?

    The INews got the link wrong. Below is the original letter:

    From: Ephraim7@aol.com
    To: —@reasons.org,
    CC: s—@ncse.com,
    Sent: 3/3/2011 11:09:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
    Subj: The Infidelity of “Old Earth”

    This letter is written to the following “Old Earth” creationism groups:
    Reasons to Believe, God & Science, and Answers in Creation
    These groups will be referred to as “OEC”.

    Being “copied in” is the National Center for Science Education (NCSE),
    whom I hope to publicly confront with the truth of our origins. I am
    serving the NCSE notice that I hope/plan to face off against them in a
    public examination of the geologic and fossil record data. They want
    to maintain the monopoly of the evolution theory being taught in
    public schools, which actually supports the tenets of Atheism. That
    is unconstitutional, and has poisoned the minds of mankind.

    But first things first. All of the above “old Earth” creationist groups
    are being given the opportunity to band together with me in this venture,
    along with any repentant young Earth groups, by accepting and propagating
    the truth of Genesis, rather than the compromising and false doctrines they
    now adhere to. Genesis is not a book of allegories and metaphors, as these
    organizations present it to be. Genesis is an accurate book of history, and
    advanced math & science, being literally true.

    In seven days, starting from March 3rd 2011, this letter will be made
    public. The OEC groups have until then to resolve the issues that are
    later presented in this epistle. I am presently under the impression that
    most all “old Earth” advocates are more open to the truth of scripture, than
    hypocrites of “young Earth. However, I detest such groups that will
    compromise the literal teaching of Genesis, and will call God a liar, denying
    that Creation Week was 168 straight hours (Exodus 20:11).,

    I hope it is only because they saw no other way to acknowledge scientific
    reality, and yet cling to belief in God’s Word. Yet both the YEC and
    “old Earth” movements are a hindrance and stumbling block to the secular
    world, preventing acceptance of the Bible, as being the Divine Word of
    God. How can an untruth (creationism), ever prove another lie (evolution),
    to be in error?

    A similar letter ahead of this one (the Hypocrisy of “Young Earth”), was
    written to various “young Earth” creationist organizations, that teach such
    false and foolish doctrines as the Earth and universe being just 10,000 years
    old, and that there was no death on Earth before modern mankind (Adam &
    Eve). However, old Earth creationists are infidels, teaching such doctrines as
    Theistic Evolution, various “Gap” theories, Progressive, and Day/Age. Each
    denies the literal truth of Genesis.

    The four “theses” that I bring for resolution are the following:

    1. Where did the body of water come from on “the first day”?
    a) How did it come into existence?
    b) Did that chaotic existence come into being before,
    during, or after “Creation Week”?
    c) Is this the first day of creation week?

    2. God told Joshua to march around Jericho for seven days. God
    also told Israel that He created our Earth & universe in seven
    days.
    a) Is the “Day/Age” doctrine a valid argument?
    b) Did God lie to Israel, or mislead them?

    3. Were the land animals made first, before mankind, as in
    Genesis chapter one, or was mankind made first, as in chapter
    two?
    a) Why is there a difference in the narrative?

    4. The Moon was created on the Fourth Day of Creation Week.
    Approximately how old is the Moon? The Moon rocks were
    analyzed to be 4.6 billion years old.
    a) The Moon has impact craters. Larger craters on the
    near side, and smaller (and more numerous) on the far
    side. Just as is throughout our solar system, there is
    undeniable evidence of bombardment which occurred
    sometime in the past. How far back in the past?

    b) Did it occur before Adam & Eve, or after Adam & Eve
    were made?

    c) Did God say “Let there be lights (celestial objects) in the sky”,
    or did He say “Let the cloud cover be removed”?

    Either band together, and accept the truth of Genesis, or be exposed as
    infidels, who deny the complete literal truth of God’s Word,
    and compromise with the carnal world.

    I’ve contacted some of you in the past, and each time you ran away.
    This time, such denial will be made public. The above theses await
    your response.

    Please advise,

    Herman Cummings
    ephraim7@aol.com

  10. That’s quite a letter, Herman. I can understand their reluctance to respond. Just keep piling on the pressure. They can’t ignore you forever.

  11. SC said:

    They can’t ignore you forever.

    Just watch.

  12. Gary says: “Just watch.”

    Herman must not be discouraged.

  13. Gabriel Hanna

    You’re a cruel man, SC.

  14. It’s a cruel world.

  15. So God gave us this planet or had it designed?

    What a freaking nutcase would design one that kills ten of thousands of people because it’s not built right.

    How can one possibly believe in any god after what happened in Japan.

    “It was designed to be the perfect place for humans”.

    Head smacks against table.

  16. I see that you, Mr. Curmudgeon, have suffered the same fate as any other site that refers to the work of Cummings. He does keep track of himself on Google, it seems. Way to generate webtraffic, SC.

    To Chris P, it’ll only be a perfect world when we bring back the T-rex. We already have the .577 cartridge designed for shooting one, after all.

  17. Greg Camp says: “Way to generate webtraffic, SC.”

    Yes, Herman is the key to this blog’s success.

  18. Hi Chris P.

    You are speaking more from ignorance, than any logical position. God created our environment with perfection. But Lucifer, who was put in charge of of our universe, turns things bad, starting about 700 million years ago. You should see the PowerPoint presentation called the “Observations of Moses”, to bring you “up to speed”.

  19. One quick thought. Can the Sensuous Curmudgeon host a small sample of the PowerPoint presentation “Observations of Moses”, for people to view? The Clergy in America is scared to host the seminar.

  20. Herman Cummings asks:

    Can the Sensuous Curmudgeon host a small sample of the PowerPoint presentation “Observations of Moses”, for people to view?

    I’d like to help you out, Herman, but I don’t think that’s appropriate for this blog. Besides, it’ll be far more rewarding if you get the word out on your own.

  21. What kind of idiotic “god” puts an evil maniac in charge of his “specially created” children?

    That’s just ridiculous.

  22. “What kind of idiotic “god” puts an evil maniac in charge of his “specially created” children?”

    Please. It’s quite apparent that many of you have a reprobate mind, are biased, or are just looking for something to criticize about the Bible. Many of you are speaking from ignorance, to the point of foolishness. Perhaps you should sign up for classes on Genesis….., from someone that knows what they are talking about.

    At the time that Lucifer was put in charge, he was pure, as the arc-angel Gabriel. But over time, he became bored, and impatient with the progress of the first of mankind. That’s when “iniquity” began to set in. You’d learn more from the seminar named “the Origin of Satan”.

    Herman

  23. Herman Cummings says: “It’s quite apparent that many of you have a reprobate mind …”

    Please control yourself, Herman.

  24. Gabriel Hanna

    @Herman Cummings:At the time that Lucifer was put in charge, he was pure, as the arc-angel Gabriel. But over time, he became bored, and impatient with the progress of the first of mankind.

    That’s a very interesting idea, but one so erudite as yourself surely knows that the Fall of the Angels is not found in Genesis or anywhere else in the Old Testament. It is derived from rabbinical tradition. The Bible’s only reference to Lucifer is actually talking about the planet Venus, worshipped by the Neo-Babylonians. (See Isaiah 14:3 – 14:20).

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaiah%2014:3-14:20&version=ESV

  25. “The Bible’s only reference to Lucifer is actually talking about the planet Venus, worshipped by the Neo-Babylonians. (See Isaiah 14:3 – 14:20)”

    See, Mr. Curmudgeon ? This is the kind of ridiculous foolishness that gets on my nerve. So much for anymore comments.

  26. Gabriel Hanna

    Surely Herman could refute me by providing another… Instead of doing that, he flounced. Wonder why.

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=simple&format=Long&q1=lucifer&restrict=All&size=First+100

    Here’s the result of my KJV search. 1 match. Isaiah 14:12.

  27. Gabriel Hanna says: “… he flounced. Wonder why.”

    Because he’s tired of having his revealed wisdom challenged by fools!